Author: Mark Young
Date: 13:45:15 10/19/98
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On October 19, 1998 at 16:00:42, James Robertson wrote: >On October 18, 1998 at 18:24:18, Mark Young wrote: > >>On October 18, 1998 at 18:11:58, blass uri wrote: >> >>> >>>On October 18, 1998 at 18:01:21, Eran wrote: >>> >>>>On October 18, 1998 at 17:45:46, blass uri wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>On October 18, 1998 at 16:55:39, Eran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 18, 1998 at 13:13:26, Steven Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Just received from Thorsten... >>>>>>>Regards, Steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>>in the moment eugen fights vs. comet. >>>>>>>The position looks drawish for many moves. this game can take ages... >>>>>>>75 moves have happened so far. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. CHESSMASTER 5000, (7) - (5) JUNIOR5 BETA JUN.CTG, >>>>>>> 2. CHESS TIGER 11.5, (12) - (2) HIARCS6, >>>>>>> 3. CSTAL WIN95, (6) - (23) ZARKOV 4.2C, >>>>>>> 4. NIMZO98 PADERBORN, (14) - (22) CRAFTY 15.18, 1:0 >>>>>>> 5. WCHESS 1.04, (18) - (13) CHESS TIGER 11.2, >>>>>>> 6. GENIUS5, (8) - (4) FRITZ 5.16 POWER.CTG, 0:1 >>>>>>> 7. EUGEN 7.5, (15) - (21) COMET A95, >>>>>>> 8. VIRTUAL2, (9) - (11) PHALANX, ½:½ >>>>>>> 9. DIAMOND 2, (16) - (10) DIEP 1.58.13, 0:1 >>>>>>>10. SOCRATES X, (24) - (1) MCHESS 7.1, ½:½ >>>>>>>11. CHESSMASTER 5555, (17) - (19) DIOGENES 4.72, 1:0 >>>>>>>12. REBEL 9, (3) - (20) CAISSA98 5.15, 1:0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1-2 JUNIOR5 BETA JUN.CTG, (5) 7.5(1) 55 68 6 >>>>>>> NIMZO98 PADERBORN, (14) 7.5 55 68 5 >>>>>>> 3-4 HIARCS6, (2) 7.0(1) 55½ 68 4 >>>>>>> CSTAL WIN95, (6) 7.0(1) 54½ 66½ 5 >>>>>>> 5-11 CHESS TIGER 11.5, (12) 6.0(1) 57 69 5 >>>>>>> CHESS TIGER 11.2, (13) 6.0(1) 56½ 69 4 >>>>>>> CRAFTY 15.18, (22) 6.0 56½ 65½ 4 >>>>>>> CHESSMASTER 5000, (7) 6.0(1) 53½ 65 4 >>>>>>> ZARKOV 4.2C, (23) 6.0(1) 49½ 59½ 6 >>>>>>> REBEL 9, (3) 6.0 48½ 56 4 >>>>>>> FRITZ 5.16 POWER.CTG, (4) 6.0 43 50½ 4 >>>>>>>12-17 GENIUS5, (8) 5.5 53½ 62½ 3 >>>>>>> MCHESS 7.1, (1) 5.5 52½ 63 3 >>>>>>> COMET A95, (21) 5.5(1) 49½ 57 5 >>>>>>> CHESSMASTER 5555, (17) 5.5 45½ 53 3 >>>>>>> DIEP 1.58.13, (10) 5.5 42½ 50 5 >>>>>>> PHALANX, (11) 5.5 42½ 49½ 4 >>>>>>>18-19 WCHESS 1.04, (18) 5.0(1) 49½ 59½ 4 >>>>>>> VIRTUAL2, (9) 5.0 43½ 49½ 4 >>>>>>> 20 EUGEN 7.5, (15) 4.5(1) 41½ 48½ 4 >>>>>>> 21 DIAMOND 2, (16) 4.0 41½ 47½ 3 >>>>>>> 22 SOCRATES X, (24) 3.0 43½ 49½ 2 >>>>>>> 23 DIOGENES 4.72, (19) 1.5 44½ 50½ 1 >>>>>>> 24 CAISSA98 5.15, (20) 0.0 44½ 52 0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1.MCHESS 7.1, 2519 2442 5.5/11 6.71 -12.1 2442 >>>>>>> 2.HIARCS6, 2539 2416 7.0/10 6.70 3.0 2565 >>>>>>> 3.REBEL 9, 2522 2410 6.0/11 7.15 -11.5 2446 >>>>>>> 4.FRITZ 5.16 POWER.CTG, 2574 2376 6.0/11 8.36 -23.6 2412 >>>>>>> 5.JUNIOR5 BETA JUN.CTG, 2480 2455 7.5/10 5.30 22.0 2648 >>>>>>> 6.CSTAL WIN95, 2300 2455 7.0/10 2.90 41.0 2604 >>>>>>> 7.CHESSMASTER 5000, 2400 2427 6.0/10 4.60 14.0 2499 >>>>>>> 8.GENIUS5, 2496 2426 5.5/11 6.60 -11.0 2426 >>>>>>> 9.VIRTUAL2, 2450 2314 5.0/11 7.48 -24.8 2278 >>>>>>>10.DIEP 1.58.13, 2400 2353 5.5/11 6.27 -7.7 2353 >>>>>>>11.PHALANX, 2300 2367 5.5/11 4.51 9.9 2367 >>>>>>>12.CHESS TIGER 11.5, 2480 2431 6.0/10 5.70 3.0 2503 >>>>>>>13.CHESS TIGER 11.2, 2450 2468 6.0/10 4.70 13.0 2540 >>>>>>>14.NIMZO98 PADERBORN, 2534 2449 7.5/11 6.82 6.8 2582 >>>>>>>15.EUGEN 7.5, 2300 2333 4.5/10 4.50 0.0 2297 >>>>>>>16.DIAMOND 2, 2125 2338 4.0/11 2.53 14.7 2236 >>>>>>>17.CHESSMASTER 5555, 2470 2339 5.5/11 7.48 -19.8 2339 >>>>>>>18.WCHESS 1.04, 2400 2383 5.0/10 5.20 -2.0 2383 >>>>>>>19.DIOGENES 4.72, 2150 2360 1.5/11 2.53 -10.3 2051 >>>>>>>20.CAISSA98 5.15, 2100 2363 0.0/11 1.98 -19.8 1364 >>>>>>>21.COMET A95, 2355 2419 5.5/10 4.10 14.0 2455 >>>>>>>22.CRAFTY 15.18, 2400 2419 6.0/11 5.17 8.3 2455 >>>>>>>23.ZARKOV 4.2C, 2400 2416 6.0/10 4.80 12.0 2488 >>>>>>>24.SOCRATES X, 2350 2345 3.0/11 5.61 -26.1 2170 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>best wishes >>>>>>> >>>>>>>mclane >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I do not understand entirely the information above, but I am interested to know >>>>>>which chess program is strongest. Is Fritz5 still the strongest one? What about >>>>>>Junior5? >>>>> >>>>>1)I think that Junior5 is slightly better than fritz5. >>>>> >>>>>2)There are also other good programs that are not in the ssdf list for example >>>>>Rebel10, Chesstiger11.5(leading Shep's tournament) and chessmaster6000 >>>>>We have not enough information to decide which program is number 1 >>>>> >>>>>3)I am not sure if Fritz5 was the strongest program(It was and is one of the >>>>>best programs) >>>>>Hiarcs and Nimzo98 are also strong and I am not sure if the first place of >>>>>fritz5 >>>>>in the ssdf list is justified. >>>>>2 reasons: >>>>>a)This list is based on long matches between programs and if the order of the >>>>>games was different maybe the results were different because fritz5 is good at >>>>>learning a specific opponent. >>>>> >>>>>b)Fritz5 is optimized for the pentium200MMX that was used in the ssdf games so >>>>>if you have another machine then your results may be slightly different. >>>>> >>>>>4)There is not a definite answer because the best program against program may be >>>>>different from the best program against humans and the best program for matches >>>>>may be different from the best program for tournaments. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Eran >>>> >>>>What is the best chess program against human? >>>> >>>>Eran >>>I think that Rebel10 >>>Rebel had always good results against humans >>> >>I agree. Rebel 10 has to be the clear favorite here. Any program that can go >toe >>to toe with GM Anand at all time controls has my vote :) > >1.5 - 0.5 (the longest time control in the match) is not quite toe to toe :) > I think just about any player in the world besides Kasparov and a very few others would be happy going 1 draw 1 loss Vs Super GM Anand. Let alone a microcomputer chess program playing at 40/2hr. If you look at the games there is no question that Rebel 10 whent toe to toe playing GM Anand at 40/2hr. >James > >> >>>Uri
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