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Subject: Re: Fairly simple endgame position

Author: Andreas Herrmann

Date: 16:54:04 06/06/03

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On June 06, 2003 at 05:40:21, Lyn Harper wrote:

>  [D]k7/5p2/4pP2/4P3/3P4/8/8/4K3 - - w
>
>   Hope the diagram comes out :)
>  Goood old CM9k does it in pretty short order, without EGDB. About 1min18sec on
>my Athlon 2400.   But Ruffian, Genius7 and Green Light Chess are stumped ,even
>after about 10min.
>   I don't have Fritz or Shredder. The old Chessica got it in over 5min.
>   How does your proggy do?

Holmes with 5 man tbs found d4 in 0,17 sec on a slow AMD K6-2/450 and after
about 11 seconds Holmes stands by mate in 14.
Without tbs d5 is found in 0,14 seconds.

with tbs
stat. eval: 1,71   (mat. balance: 1,00   pos. val: 0,71)
>1          49        1          2 1/1/2 1.d5  {0kNs 0:00,01}
>1         137        2          4 1/1/2 1.Kd2  {0kNs 0:00,02}
>2         119        3         12 2/2/2 1.Kd2 Kb7  {0kNs 0:00,03}
>3         121        5         37 3/3/4 1.Kd2 Kb7 2.Ke3  {1kNs 0:00,05}
>4         101        6        128 4/4/4 1.Kd2 Kb7 2.Ke3 Kc6  {2kNs 0:00,06}
>5          97        7        314 5/6/5 1.Kd2 Kb7 2.Kc3 Kc6 3.Kc4  {4kNs 0:00,07}
>5        1044       16        553 5/6/8 1.d5 Kb7 2.dxe6 Kc6 3.exf7 Kd5  {3kNs 0:00,16 8t}
>6        1044       17        901 6/8/8 1.d5 Kb7 2.dxe6 Kc6 3.exf7 Kd5 4.f8=Q  {5kNs 0:00,17 16t}
>7        1044       21       1427 7/8/8 1.d5 Kb7 2.dxe6 Kc6 3.exf7 Kd5 4.f8=Q  {! 7kNs 0:00,21 25t}
>7        1197       26       2067 7/10/11 1.d5 Kb7 2.dxe6 Kc6 3.exf7 Kd5 4.f8=Q Ke6  {8kNs 0:00,26 31t}
>8        1220       87       4082 8/12/13 1.d5 Kb7 2.dxe6 Kc6 3.exf7 Kd5 4.f8=Q Ke6 5.Qf7+ Kf5  {5kNs 0:00,87 108t}
>9        1220      108       8327 9/14/14 1.d5 Kb7 2.dxe6 Kc6 3.exf7 Kd5 4.f8=Q Ke6 5.Qf7+ Kf5  {! 8kNs 0:01,08 279t}
>9        1270      151      11052 9/14/15 1.d5 Kb7  {7kNs 0:01,51 360t}
>10       1270      154      13283 10/14/15 1.d5 Kb7  {! 9kNs 0:01,54 401t}
>10       1270      156      14828 10/14/15 1.d5 Kb7  {!! 10kNs 0:01,56 414t}
>10       1927      195      26500 10/16/18 1.d5 Kb7 2.dxe6 Kc6 3.exf7 Kd5 4.f8=Q Ke4 5.f7 Kf5 6.Qc8+ Ke4 7.Qf5+ Kd4  {14kNs 0:01,95 541t}
>11       1927      206      44274 11/16/18 1.d5 Kb7 2.dxe6 Kc6 3.exf7 Kd5 4.f8=Q Ke4 5.f7 Kf5 6.Qc8+ Ke4 7.Qf5+ Kd4  {! 21kNs 0:02,06 730t}
>11      31966      309     124733 11/18/19 1.d5 Kb7 2.dxe6 Kc6 3.exf7 Kc5 4.f8=Q+ Kd5 5.Qe7 Ke4 6.Qb4+  {mate17 40kNs 0:03,09 1288t}
>12      31970      592     385206 12/20/21 1.d5 Kb7 2.dxe6 Kc6 3.exf7 Kc5 4.f8=Q+ Kd5 5.Qc5+ Kxc5  {mate15 65kNs 0:05,92 3004t}
>13      31972     1127     993131 13/22/23 1.d5 Kb7 2.dxe6 Kc6 3.exf7 Kd5 4.f8=Q Ke4 5.Qb4+ Kd3 6.f7  {mate14 88kNs 0:11,27 6572t}
>14      31972     2215    1692445 14/24/25 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6  {mate14 76kNs 0:22,15 11470t}
>15      31972     2592    1937600 15/24/25 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6  {mate14 75kNs 0:25,92 12700t}
>16      31972     3351    2356425 16/26/27 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6  {mate14 70kNs 0:33,51 16056t}
>17      31972     5458    3466223 17/28/29 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6  {mate14 64kNs 0:54,58 25501t}
>18      31972    10763    7953741 18/31/29 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6  {mate14 74kNs 1:47,63 53055t}

without tbs
stat. eval: 1,71   (mat. balance: 1,00   pos. val: 0,71)
>1          49        1          2 1/1/2 1.d5  {0kNs 0:00,01}
>1         137        2          4 1/1/2 1.Kd2  {0kNs 0:00,02}
>2         119        3         12 2/2/2 1.Kd2 Kb7  {0kNs 0:00,03}
>3         121        4         37 3/3/4 1.Kd2 Kb7 2.Ke3  {1kNs 0:00,04}
>4         101        5        128 4/4/4 1.Kd2 Kb7 2.Ke3 Kc6  {3kNs 0:00,05}
>5          97        7        314 5/6/5 1.Kd2 Kb7 2.Kc3 Kc6 3.Kc4  {4kNs 0:00,07}
>5          98        8        472 5/6/5 1.Kf2 Kb7  {6kNs 0:00,08}
>5          99        9        527 5/6/5 1.Kd1 Kb7  {6kNs 0:00,09}
>6          78       11        737 6/7/6 1.Kd1 Kb7 2.Kd2 Kc6 3.Ke1 Kd7  {7kNs 0:00,11}
>6          98       12       1094 6/7/6 1.Kf2 Kb7 2.Kg3 Kc6 3.Kf4 Kd7  {9kNs 0:00,12}
>6         592       14       1759 6/8/8 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 e5 4.f8=Q+ Kb7  {13kNs 0:00,14}
>7         592       16       2642 7/10/11 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q e5  {17kNs 0:00,16}
>8         613       20       4583 8/12/12 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe8+ Kd6  {23kNs 0:00,20}
>9         610       24       8762 9/12/14 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe8+ Kd6 6.Kd2  {37kNs 0:00,24}
>10        610       29      12828 10/14/16 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe8+ Kd6 6.Kd2  {! 44kNs 0:00,29}
>10        751       35      17885 10/14/16 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe7 d4 6.Qxe6+ Kc5  {51kNs 0:00,35}
>11        753       58      40703 11/16/18 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe7 d4 6.Qxe6+ Kc5 7.Kd2  {70kNs 0:00,58}
>12        751      109      93163 12/18/20 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe7 d4 6.Qxe6+ Kc5  {85kNs 0:01,09}
>13        760      199     186750 13/20/22 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe7 Kb5 6.Qxe6 Kc5  {94kNs 0:01,99}
>14        760      382     380204 14/23/24 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe7 Kb5 6.Qxe6 Kc5 7.Qe7+ Kb5 8.Qd7+ Kc5  {100kNs 0:03,82}
>15        763      818     832276 15/26/26 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe7 Kb5 6.Qxe6 Kc5 7.Kd2 Kd4 8.Qg4+ Kc5 9.Kc3  {102kNs 0:08,18}
>16        763     1631    1692023 16/28/30 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe7 Kb5 6.Qxe6 Kc5  {104kNs 0:16,31}
>17        766     5979    6493379 17/31/32 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe7 Kb5 6.Qxe6 Kc5 7.Qe3+ Kc4 8.Kd2 Kb5 9.Qd4 Kc6 10.Ke3  {109kNs 0:59,79}
>18        766     7104    7615971 18/31/32 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.f8=Q Kc6 5.Qe7 Kb5 6.Qxe6 Kc5 7.Qe3+ Kc4 8.Kd2 Kb5 9.Qd4 Kc6 10.Ke3  {! 107kNs 1:11,04}
>18        816    22786   27693871 18/33/34 1.d5 exd5  {122kNs 3:47,86}
>19        816    23951   28859061 19/33/34 1.d5 exd5  {! 120kNs 3:59,51}
>19        902    56934   73105186 19/35/35 1.d5 exd5 2.e6 fxe6 3.f7 Kb7 4.Kd2 Kc6 5.Ke3 e5 6.f8=Q d4+ 7.Kd3 Kd5 8.Qf7+ Kd6 9.Ke4 Kc5 10.Qd5+  {128kNs 9:29,34}

Andreas



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