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Subject: Re: Effect of RAM speed on engine play

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 12:15:31 06/07/03

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On June 07, 2003 at 14:40:49, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On June 07, 2003 at 10:44:14, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 07, 2003 at 08:47:52, Peter Stayne wrote:
>>
>>>I believe I saw a thread a long time ago on the Winboard forum where Robert
>>>Hyatt was discussing this, but I can't find it.
>>>
>>>Given equivalent CPU capabilities, would an engine on a machine with one of the
>>>new 800MHz P4 QDR buses get a large or small or non-existent boost in speed over
>>>standard DDR at say, 266MHz? or even SDRAM at 100/133?
>>>
>>>My 533MHz QDR operates at the same frequency as even old PC133 SDRAM memory, but
>>>it delivers 4x as much data at each interval. Is the base frequency of the RAM
>>>more important, or the amount of data overall?
>>>
>>>Pete
>>
>>
>>The issue is latency.  bandwidth is secondary since it is not common to move
>>large blocks of memory around in a chess engine, unless someone is using
>>the "copy/make" approach.
>>
>>As a general rule, buss speed is not going to affect latency much, unless you
>>dive into overclocking to see how far you can push the envelope.
>>
>>I've compared my dual 2.8 with 400mhz fsb to a dual 2.8 with 533mhz fsb and
>>I couldn't see much difference at all...
>
>All of the SMP boards I've seen have pretty poor latency. If you test the newer
>single CPU systems you see a near linear speedup in MHz of the fsb vs latency.
>This is at 100fsb, 133, 166 & 200fsb... non-overclocked speeds.

Thank god for AMD & Opteron. :)

-Tom



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