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Subject: Re: Testposition. Is e5 really the best?

Author: Thomas McBurney

Date: 23:32:43 06/08/03

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On June 08, 2003 at 19:25:14, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>This is from Chessmaster's classic games:
>
>In the following position from a game between chess engines
>Belle Vs Chess -1979, and after 44.e5 the annotator for Chessmaster said:
>"A fine pawn sacrifice which produces a powerful passed d-pawn."
>
>And indeed after 44.e5 if 44...Bxe5 then 45.Nxe5 dxe5 and white is
>winning due to the passed d-pawn.
>But the few engines i tried (Shredder7.04 / Fritz8.00.8 D-Junior8/ZX /
>Chess Tiger 15.0ga) don't play 44.e5 because after this instead of
>44...Bxe5 they play 44...Rxc4. The game after 44...Rxc4
>looks drawn to me but after long analysis seems it is a win for white
>(Rook Vs Knight in the endgame).
>So indeed 44.e5 maybe the best but not for the reason the annotator
>said. Because after the Rxc4 there is no passed pawn.
>Most programs here prefer 44.Qxb3 with a big score, that is steadily
>decreasing.
>So what is the best move after all? Any program finds e5?
>
>[D]3q2k1/2n2pb1/3p4/2pP2p1/2N1P2p/1p1Q1P2/2r2BPP/3R2K1 w - - 0 44
>

I tried this position with my chess engine Kanguruh, which is not a particularly
strong engine, but it was interesting to note that it found the move e5 but then
later changed it's mind to Qxb3 with a large score.

  1   -652      11         211  d3b3
  2    -14      10         341  d3b3 c2e2
  3    -10       9         673  d3b3 c2e2 b3b7
  4    -11       9        6128  d3b3 c2e2 d1d2 e2d2
  5      2      68       27146  d3b3 c2c3 b3a4 g8h8 g1h1
  6      0     267      149151  d3b3 c2c3 b3a4 g8h8 g1h1 d8e7
  7      6    1019      536827  d3b3 c2c3 b3a4 g8h8 g1h1 d8e7 f2e3
  7      6    8162     4724430  e4e5 g7e5 c4e5 d6e5 d3b3 c2e2 f2c5 g8h8
  8     -1   72461    28315831  e4e5 d8b8 e5d6 c7a8 d6d7 c2c3 d3e4 a8b6
  8     -1   94139    36344180  d3b3 c2c3 b3a2 g7d4 f2d4 c5d4 d1d4 c3c1 g1f2 g8h
8 d4d3
  9    101  177487    64377763  d3b3 c2c3 b3a2 g7d4 f2d4 c5d4 d1d4 c3c1 g1f2 c1h
1 a2a3 c7e8 h2h3


The following is what Kanguruh thinks of blacks position after e5 has been
played.

  1   -402      45         161  c2b2
  1   -402      44         253  c2a2
  1   -402      43         574  d6e5
  2     80      39        1431  d6e5 d3b3
  3     83      33        2658  d6e5 d3b3 c2e2
  4     83      10       12462  d6e5 d3b3 c2e2 f2c5
  5     83     110       39180  d6e5 d3b3 c2e2 f2c5 c7d5
  6    -17     339      107672  d6e5 d3b3
  6    -17    3063     1047630  g7e5 c4e5
  7    -30   12031     4439023  g7e5 c4e5 d6e5 d3b3 c2e2 g1f1 c5c4 b3c4 e2b2 f1g
1
  7    -30   23462     8823090  d8b8 e5d6 c7a8 d6d7 c2c3 d3e4 a8b6
  8    -12   48333    17679839  d8b8 e5d6 c7a8 d6d7 a8b6 c4b6 b8b6 d1b1 c2c3



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