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Subject: Re: Even Palms are greater than famous old computers, people don't think

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 12:08:02 06/09/03

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On June 09, 2003 at 15:07:00, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On June 09, 2003 at 04:57:05, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>> People not involved in chess sometimes look upon a great Palm chess program as
>>being one of the lowliest little gadgets anyone could think of, and certainly a
>>most obvious one. But the greatest of handheld programs (soon to be Christophes
>>upcoming Palm program maximised for about 400Mhz (Arm).Is probably far far
>>greater in all its aspects than all the great famous old computers of the 1970's
>>and perhaps of some from the 1980's. More recent too, but of those, the Palm
>>would CRUSH them in every game.
>> We should be happy not to be paying ten million dollars for a recent Palm with
>>best program in a few months from now, maybe now too. Not more than one person
>>should also have the privelage of having one!
>> Not to speak of things like Shredder 7.04 on 3Ghz Athlon, which is almost
>>nothing today.
>>Who wouldn't have paid alot in the early 1980's for a pocket world champion? ANY
>>millionaire who understood what it is would have paid $100,000 guranteed!
>> One who didn't understand what it is would never even agree to keep it out of
>>the garbage (as far as the chess is concerned) for one second!
>>It's sometimes hard to explain this to people, I mean to the type who want it in
>>the garbage. I sound to them like a real baby, and all their opinion of me goes
>>down the drain!
>>S.Taylor
>
>
>
>Some interesting numbers:
>
>SSDF elo rating of Chess Tiger 14.9a for PalmOS running on Palm m515 @42MHz:
>2101 (+/- the usual margin of error that can be found on the SSDF site).
>
>Estimated SSDF elo rating of Chess Tiger 15.0 for PalmOS running on Palm
>Tungsten-C @400MHz: 2290 (explanations and formulas can be found at
>http://www.chestiger.com, click on the "FAQ" link).


A typo! it's http://www.chesstiger.com !




>
>Now here is a list of interesting computers or programs tested by the SSDF:
>
>??? Chess Tiger 15.0 TungstenC (estimate)   2290    ?     ?     ?     ?     ?
> 96 Tasc R30 v. 2.5                         2274   41   -38   343   69%  2136
>104 Fritz 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2242   18   -19  1438   42%  2299
>111 Mephisto London 68 030 36 MHz           2216   71   -63   122   68%  2080
>113 Chess Machine 30-32 MHz Schröder 3.1    2205   30   -29   586   64%  2102
>137 Chess Tiger 14.9 Palm m515 16MB 42MHz   2101   69   -74   100   39%  2180
>144 Mephisto Atlanta SH7000 20 MHz          2087   29   -27   667   68%  1956
>154 Sapphire II                             2009   34   -32   464   63%  1918
>161 Fidelity Mach IV  68020 20 MHz          1974   18   -18  1495   48%  1988
>184 Chess Genius 1.5 Palm m515 16MB 42MHz   1870   69   -78   100   32%  2002
>185 Mephisto Roma  68000 12 MHz             1869   18   -18  1519   56%  1827
>
>(the last two lines show that a Palm m515 running at 42MHz has approximately the
>same processing power as a 68000 running at 12MHz because ChessGenius 1.5 for
>Palm has the Mephisto Roma chess engine, source is the Chess Genius web site)
>
>
>Whe can tell me the SSDF rating of Belle and Cray Blitz?
>
>
>
>    Christophe



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