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Subject: Re: Even Palms are greater than famous old computers, people don't think

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 12:30:45 06/09/03

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On June 09, 2003 at 15:07:00, Christophe Theron wrote:

>Some interesting numbers:
>
>SSDF elo rating of Chess Tiger 14.9a for PalmOS running on Palm m515 @42MHz:
>2101 (+/- the usual margin of error that can be found on the SSDF site).
>
>Estimated SSDF elo rating of Chess Tiger 15.0 for PalmOS running on Palm
>Tungsten-C @400MHz: 2290 (explanations and formulas can be found at
>http://www.chestiger.com, click on the "FAQ" link).
>
>Now here is a list of interesting computers or programs tested by the SSDF:
>
>??? Chess Tiger 15.0 TungstenC (estimate)   2290    ?     ?     ?     ?     ?
> 96 Tasc R30 v. 2.5                         2274   41   -38   343   69%  2136
>104 Fritz 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2242   18   -19  1438   42%  2299
>111 Mephisto London 68 030 36 MHz           2216   71   -63   122   68%  2080
>113 Chess Machine 30-32 MHz Schröder 3.1    2205   30   -29   586   64%  2102
>137 Chess Tiger 14.9 Palm m515 16MB 42MHz   2101   69   -74   100   39%  2180
>144 Mephisto Atlanta SH7000 20 MHz          2087   29   -27   667   68%  1956
>154 Sapphire II                             2009   34   -32   464   63%  1918
>161 Fidelity Mach IV  68020 20 MHz          1974   18   -18  1495   48%  1988
>184 Chess Genius 1.5 Palm m515 16MB 42MHz   1870   69   -78   100   32%  2002
>185 Mephisto Roma  68000 12 MHz             1869   18   -18  1519   56%  1827
>
>(the last two lines show that a Palm m515 running at 42MHz has approximately the
>same processing power as a 68000 running at 12MHz because ChessGenius 1.5 for
>Palm has the Mephisto Roma chess engine, source is the Chess Genius web site)
>
>
>Whe can tell me the SSDF rating of Belle and Cray Blitz?
>
>
>
>    Christophe

Let's try some others:

86  MChess Pro 5.0 Pentium 90 MHz           2306   26   -25   769   63%  2214
89  Rebel 7.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2301   26   -25   759   61%  2219
??? Chess Tiger 15.0 TungstenC (estimate)   2290    ?     ?     ?     ?     ?
92  Junior 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2288   22   -22  1035   42%  2343
98  Genius 4.0 DOS 486/50-66 MHz            2266   23   -23   900   49%  2270
94  Shredder 1.0 Pentium 90 MHz             2283   59   -58   145   53%  2264
105 Mephisto Genius 2.0  486/50-66 MHz      2235   23   -23   917   58%  2176
137 Chess Tiger 14.9 Palm m515 16MB 42MHz   2101   69   -74   100   39%  2180

Do you think this is realistic?

I have the feeling that the non-active oldtimers are not rated accurately
anymore. But of course I can't prove and I have no personal experience how
strong Tiger plays on the Tungsten.

Peter



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