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Subject: Re: Third Party Winboard support for Fritz GUI

Author: Thomas Mayer

Date: 10:03:21 06/10/03

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Hi Brian,

>>I'm assuming the CB natives have some advanatage over using UCI.
>>If it didnt, then why borther with a CB native? just implement UCI.

> I agree. Let ChessBase make their UCI adaptation work properly and the engine
> author to write to UCI specs. There was potential to do this with their WB
> adaptor but not knowing the details I can not say why it was dropped. I
> think a reason for ChessBase protocol is so that some engines will not be
> UCI or Winboard compatible.

oh well, the adaptor story again - it seems that ChessBase is really not capable
to built a good adapter to anything... Nearly each month a new bug in their UCI
implementation is reported, I really can not understand why this happens - so
for an engine programmer there is really the question why to bother with UCI
when the CB GUI does not support it correctly ? -> besides Malin's
WB2UCI-Adapter is really a nice tool, many engines work fine with it.

About the CB-Protocol: Afaik it is even different from engine to engine so that
you can't be sure that something that works with Fritz will also work with
Junior etc. -> I would really like to see CB stopping this native crap and only
publish UCI engines... They might not work correctly in their own GUI (oh, maybe
they will spent THEN some work in the UCI adaptor) but extremely well everywhere
else... with the CB-UCI-Adaptor it is somehow the same story then it was with
the CB-WB-Adaptor: thousends of versions but none is working correctly. And all
other GUIs have no real problem to implement it correctly. I have here
ChessAssistant, ChessPartner, Arena etc. in mind...

But well, such behaviour is not uncommen - market leaders, when the leadship is
big enough, can always answer: "Who cares, profits are still going up - if one
of the other companys will get a problem, we buy them..." (Sounds a bit like
Microsoft... :)

Greets, Thomas



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