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Subject: Re: for stu, a recommendation......(.. intelligent chatter--)

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 04:23:07 06/11/03

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On June 10, 2003 at 23:36:14, margolies,marc wrote:

Marc, thanks for your ideas. Since I don't yet use my own computer in my own
place, I didn't yet bother about how to set things up, such as chessbase GUI
etc. But soon I hope to. Why? does that window give positional assesments?
  But what you say about Fritz 5.32, yes, that IS what I have and I believed the
speaker was IM Malcolm Pein.
  The only problem is that it's a bit empty of authenticity as to what it's
saying, and when. If only it was more intelligent. It makes me think, but It's
not foccused enough towards accuracy. And, I agree, that fun is an excellent
learning tool, but combined with truth!
S.Taylor

>A question.
>You can view engine analysis pane while you play against a chess engine in a
>chessbase Gui. Do you ever try this? It sounds more to your taste than my own.
>
>I might view an engines opening book while I play against it as a reinforcement
>of learning (eg., show tree) but i will not allow myself to be distracted by the
>'analytical noise' an engine outputs while I play. By the same token, I almost
>never use chatter when I want to learn anything-- it distracts me-- that's why
>your recommendation caught me off-guard.
>
>here's when i use chatter: the machine is brutalizing my playing so of course I
>need some light entertainment even sarcasm to take the edge off of that- chess
>should be fun. I liked the old chatter disk from fritz 5.32 it had daniel king's
>voice.kin is a good teacher if you have seen his video cd files on the Attack!
>trainer, so he can read and engage. I am not aware of the persona of fritz 8
>chatter, although I really wish they might use an american voice sometime--
>someone who can be swarmy and annoying. the new voice is alittle insipid. i am
>thinking maybe 'bronxbattler' on icc- finegold.
>
>all the best- marc
>
>
>
>
>On June 10, 2003 at 21:35:12, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On June 09, 2003 at 14:40:36, margolies,marc wrote:
>>
>>>stu,
>>>if you want to change the analysis function, might you please give us some ideas
>>>about how you use it now. what would make it better and not merely different.
>>>have you tried training/tutorial modules by any company, do you like them? do
>>>you use the coach feature in cb gui and how is this different than smart talking
>>>sounds? would a speach-to-text feature in the coach be what you really want?
>>>cheers, marc
>>
>>I don't really have suggestions about analysis functions, as I havn't been using
>>new versions recently. I just meant that if there is something which can show
>>even more information and greater accuracy of analysis, then that is always
>>worth doing. But I didn't want people to think that all I care about Is chatter,
>>even though that is what I keep trying to get done.
>>Speech can include spoken analysis together with, and especially, positional
>>assesments which cause a person to think better, and about more things, and in a
>>more enlightened way, while he is playing casual games. It can also be in a way
>>which HELPS focus, not distracts. Also to comment on the pros and cons of your
>>last move.
>>S.Taylor



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