Author: margolies,marc
Date: 09:20:51 06/11/03
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Hi stu, an engine pane wont 'discuss' positional ideas with you. whatever strength it can offer comes in terms of immediate feedback by showing lines which the chess engine is evaluating in response to your move and also the 'best' move it anticipates from you. this is a dialectic of concrete variations. .. not a rules based language of ideas like human-speak. and alot of it can be spurious especially in short time controls. best to you-marc On June 11, 2003 at 07:23:07, stuart taylor wrote: >On June 10, 2003 at 23:36:14, margolies,marc wrote: > >Marc, thanks for your ideas. Since I don't yet use my own computer in my own >place, I didn't yet bother about how to set things up, such as chessbase GUI >etc. But soon I hope to. Why? does that window give positional assesments? > But what you say about Fritz 5.32, yes, that IS what I have and I believed the >speaker was IM Malcolm Pein. > The only problem is that it's a bit empty of authenticity as to what it's >saying, and when. If only it was more intelligent. It makes me think, but It's >not foccused enough towards accuracy. And, I agree, that fun is an excellent >learning tool, but combined with truth! >S.Taylor > >>A question. >>You can view engine analysis pane while you play against a chess engine in a >>chessbase Gui. Do you ever try this? It sounds more to your taste than my own. >> >>I might view an engines opening book while I play against it as a reinforcement >>of learning (eg., show tree) but i will not allow myself to be distracted by the >>'analytical noise' an engine outputs while I play. By the same token, I almost >>never use chatter when I want to learn anything-- it distracts me-- that's why >>your recommendation caught me off-guard. >> >>here's when i use chatter: the machine is brutalizing my playing so of course I >>need some light entertainment even sarcasm to take the edge off of that- chess >>should be fun. I liked the old chatter disk from fritz 5.32 it had daniel king's >>voice.kin is a good teacher if you have seen his video cd files on the Attack! >>trainer, so he can read and engage. I am not aware of the persona of fritz 8 >>chatter, although I really wish they might use an american voice sometime-- >>someone who can be swarmy and annoying. the new voice is alittle insipid. i am >>thinking maybe 'bronxbattler' on icc- finegold. >> >>all the best- marc >> >> >> >> >>On June 10, 2003 at 21:35:12, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On June 09, 2003 at 14:40:36, margolies,marc wrote: >>> >>>>stu, >>>>if you want to change the analysis function, might you please give us some ideas >>>>about how you use it now. what would make it better and not merely different. >>>>have you tried training/tutorial modules by any company, do you like them? do >>>>you use the coach feature in cb gui and how is this different than smart talking >>>>sounds? would a speach-to-text feature in the coach be what you really want? >>>>cheers, marc >>> >>>I don't really have suggestions about analysis functions, as I havn't been using >>>new versions recently. I just meant that if there is something which can show >>>even more information and greater accuracy of analysis, then that is always >>>worth doing. But I didn't want people to think that all I care about Is chatter, >>>even though that is what I keep trying to get done. >>>Speech can include spoken analysis together with, and especially, positional >>>assesments which cause a person to think better, and about more things, and in a >>>more enlightened way, while he is playing casual games. It can also be in a way >>>which HELPS focus, not distracts. Also to comment on the pros and cons of your >>>last move. >>>S.Taylor
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