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Subject: Re: Markoff -- Botvinnik -- Kaissa -- Hsu -- ABC -- Berliner

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 09:52:04 06/11/03

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On June 11, 2003 at 11:02:58, Tony Werten wrote:

>On June 10, 2003 at 19:19:41, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>
>>On June 09, 2003 at 04:01:12, Walter Faxon wrote:
>>
>>>Musings on nonstandard computer chess techniques.
>>>
>>>What's new on the computer chess front?  I note that Sergei S. Markoff's new
>>>program SmarThink (http://www.aigroup.narod.ru/detailse.htm) is supposed to use
>>>(among many other things) some of former world chess champion M.M. Botvinnik's
>>>ideas.  Botvinnik's "Computers, Chess and Long-Range Planning" (Springer, 1970)
>>>and "Chess: Solving Inexact Search Problems" (Springer, 1983) described a method
>>>that apparently only Botvinnik's programmer/protege Boris Stilman believed would
>>>work, which Stilman later generalized in his own book "Linguistic Geometry: From
>>>Search to Construction" (Kluwer, 2000).  Markoff's own on-line writings on chess
>>>algorithms (http://www.aigroup.narod.ru/indexe.htm) are only in Russian, so far.
>>> (I am assuming that the SmarThink download doesn't include source.)
>>>
>>>Markoff also writes that his first program included ideas from the authors of
>>>"Kaissa".  Those authors published papers in the 1970's on "the method of
>>>analogies" to reduce search work, but they did not use it in their competitive
>>>program. If you recall, Hsu wrote in "Behind Deep Blue" (Princeton Univ. Pr.,
>>>2002) that he had implemented a stripped-down version of the analogies method
>>>for Deep Blue.  It is the unpublished intellectual property of IBM.
>>>
>>>Sometimes I wonder if chess program authors mention intriguing nonsense just to
>>>throw their competitors off the track.  I recall someone once letting slip that
>>>he had used Botvinnik's method for an early hardware-limited microcomputer
>>>program.  That seems unlikely.  Nearly 15 years ago an author (Kittinger?)
>>>dropped hints that he had adopted McAllester's 1988 method "conspiracy number
>>>search" (aka conspiracy search) for his program, using the term "nodulation".
>>>Published results indicate that plain conspiracy numbers don't work very well
>>>for chess.  As far as I know, today only experiments on multiprocessor machines
>>>are being conducted; no competitive microcomputer program uses it at all.  So
>>>was it a mirage -- or a trick?
>>>
>>>David McAllester and Deniz Yuret did finally publish their revised work
>>>(Alpha-Beta-Conspiracy Search. ICGA Journal, Vol. 25, No. 1 (March 2002), pp.
>>>16--35), nearly ten years after their initial experiments with the
>>>multiprocessor program Star-Socrates.  And ten years from now?...
>>>
>>>And what about Berliner's B* algorithm?  (Actually Palay's probabilistic B*
>>>using a probability distribution for evaluation instead of a simple range, today
>>>suggestive that techniques from fuzzy logic might be applied.)  The chess
>>>machine Hitech was originally built for it in the early 1980's (equal first on
>>>points but second on tiebreak, WCCC 1986) -- and finally began using it.  As of
>>>mid-1993 it was "almost as good as regular Hitech".   In mid-1995 it was still
>>>"not quite as good as brute force searching."   In the abstract of his last word
>>>on the subject (Hans J. Berliner and Chris McConnell.  B* probability based
>>>search.  Artificial Intelligence, Volume 86, Issue 1, September 1996, Pages
>>>97-156) Berliner writes, "Analysis of the data indicates that should additional
>>>power become available, the B* technique will scale up considerably better than
>>>brute-force techniques."  Berliner is now retired.  More power is available.
>>>Where are the later papers?  Where is B* today?
>>>
>>>My suggestion:  you are writing a chess program.  Go ahead, put in negascout,
>>>null-move pruning, IID, everything everybody is already doing.  Then, look to
>>>the literature and find some method that everybody is _not_ doing.  Implement
>>>it, experiment with it, and _publish_ your results.  Please.
>>
>>A nice post.
>>
>>Junghanns gives a good overview of all the alternatives to alpha-beta at:
>>
>>Are There Practical Alternatives to Alpha-beta?"
>>ICCA Journal, Vol. 21, No. 5, 1998. pp. 14--32.
>>http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/junghanns98are.html
>>
>>Just take a look at all the chess related research published in ICGA in the last
>>year:
>>
>>ICGA 25(1):
>>            Alpha-Beta Conspiracy Search
>>            (McAllester & Yuret)
>>            [an interesting, but old article]
>>
>>            A Lockless Transposition-Table Implementation for Parallel Search
>>            (Hyatt & Mann)
>>            [a smart transposition table idea]
>>
>>ICGA 25(2):
>>            Nothing!
>>
>>ICGA 25(3):
>>            Verified Null-Move Pruning
>>            (David Tabibi & Netanyahu)
>>
>>ICGA 25(4):
>>            Nothing!
>
>I don't think this issue actually appeared ???

http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/icga/journal/contents/content25-4.htm



>
>Tony
>
>>
>>ICGA 26(1):    [haven't received the issue yet, just looked at
>>                http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/icga/journal/contents/content26-1.htm]
>>
>>            Nothing!
>>
>>
>>I believe that all this lack of research stems from the Deep Blue - Kasparov
>>match. Deep Blue's victory convinced many that nothing is left to be done in
>>chess, so let's move on. The new trend seems to be Go; just take a look at the
>>two latest ICGA issues: it's all about Go. Maybe that's the reason why the name
>>ICCA was changed to ICGA ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>-- Walter



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