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Subject: Re: An Old idea for chess programs

Author: blass uri

Date: 11:56:04 10/20/98

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On October 20, 1998 at 14:03:52, William H Rogers wrote:

>It was written years ago by some of the leading chess experts that the day would
>come when improvement in chess programs would come to a stop, as the men who
>wrote the programs were only looking for faster machines to improve their
>programs. The left out opening books (mega sizes), and end games, etc..
>What I propose would be to set some limits on programs, at least in competition
>to the following examples; not to say that these are the final numbers.
>
>All programs would be limited to say 10 moves deep in their opening books and
>end game books limited to maybe 4 pieces left on the board for each size.
>Thinking on the opponents time is allowed as that is a major part of the chess
>programs thinking.  Another idea is to limit the moves to a certain ply depth.

I do not understand what do you mean.
Programs do different extensions so you cannot make all the machines equal by a
cetain brute force depth.

>This would make all programs more equal as to machine speed.
>
>In my opinion, if and when, ideas of this nature are set as a standard, we will
>once again see major chess improvements in programming and that is what it is
>suppost to be all about.

I think that we see all the time improvement in programming and I am not talking
of opening books or tablebases.


>Even if a single person sets these perimeters, if they can, the true strenght of
>the programs can be really realized.

I think that the best programs are also best if we will give them to play
without opening books.
I think that the opening books and tablebases do not influence more than 50 elo

Uri




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