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Subject: Re: Winning against a computer and not knowing what was the pivotal move.

Author: Matthew White

Date: 18:45:10 06/13/03

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On June 13, 2003 at 20:57:07, Hristo wrote:

>This was blitz (10 min. for all) game, but even after analyzing the game at 2:15
>per move the engine had no idea of the trouble until it was too late.
>
>At what move do other programs consider white's position to be dangerous?
>How do other programs evaluate 19. ... Bxh2+ ?!
>
>[Event "?"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "2003.06.13"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Sigma Chess 6"]
>[Black "Hristo Doichev"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "A01"]
>
>1. b3 f5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 d5 4. e3 e6 5. Bd3 Bd6 6. O-O Nbd7 7. Bb2 h6 8. c4 c6
>9. c5 Bc7 10. Nbd2 Qe7 11. b4 a5 12. Nh4 Nf8 13. bxa5 g5 14. Nhf3 Ng6 15. Nb3
>g4 16. Ne1 h5 17. Bc3 Kf7 18. Qc2 h4 19. Rb1 Bxh2+ 20. Kxh2 g3+ 21. Kh3 Bd7 22.
>f3 Rag8 23. Nc1 Nh7 24. f4 Qg5 25. Qd1 e5 26. Be2 exf4 27. Bh5 Qg4+ 28. Qxg4
>fxg4+ 29. Bxg4 Ng5# 0-1
>
>Regards,
>Hristo
The mistake it made was 21. Kh3, walking directly into a forced mate in 8.
Better, it appears, is Kg1, where the sacrifice doesn't show much promise.

Here is Shredder 7.04 analysis of the 4 choices:
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  9	 0:01 	+1.28 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 Nxf2 25.Kxf2 hxg2
26.Na5 bxa6 27.Nxc6 (1.034.334) 521.3
LT:   8	 0:00 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 22.Kg1 h3 23.fxg3 Nxe3 (286.251) 539.0
LT:   8	 0:00 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 Qh2 25.a6 Nh4
26.axb7 Bxb7 27.Nd2 Nxf3 28.Rxb7+ Kf6 (286.279) 539.1
LT:   8	 0:00 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 fxe4 (286.308) 539.1
-----
  9	 0:01 	+1.28 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 Nxf2 25.Kxf2 hxg2
26.Na5 bxa6 27.Nxc6 (1.034.334) 521.3
  9	 0:01 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 (1.034.383) 521.3
LT:   8	 0:00 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 Qh2 25.a6 Nh4
26.axb7 Bxb7 27.Nd2 Nxf3 28.Rxb7+ Kf6 (286.279) 539.1
LT:   8	 0:00 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 fxe4 (286.308) 539.1
-----
  9	 0:01 	+1.28 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 Nxf2 25.Kxf2 hxg2
26.Na5 bxa6 27.Nxc6 (1.034.334) 521.3
  9	 0:01 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 (1.034.383) 521.3
  9	 0:01 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 Qh2 25.a6 Nh4
26.axb7 Bxb7 27.Nd2 Nxf3 28.Rxb7+ Kf6 (1.034.420) 521.3
LT:   8	 0:00 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 fxe4 (286.308) 539.1
-----
  9	 0:01 	+1.28 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 Nxf2 25.Kxf2 hxg2
26.Na5 bxa6 27.Nxc6 (1.034.334) 521.3
  9	 0:01 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 (1.034.383) 521.3
  9	 0:01 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 Qh2 25.a6 Nh4
26.axb7 Bxb7 27.Nd2 Nxf3 28.Rxb7+ Kf6 (1.034.420) 521.3
  9	 0:01 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 fxe4 (1.034.459) 521.4
-----
 10	 0:03 	+0.99 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 bxa6 25.Na5 Bd7
26.Re2 hxg2 27.Rxg2 Rag8 28.Bxa6 Nxe3 29.Be1 (1.954.213) 504.3
LT:   9	 0:01 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 (1.034.383) 521.3
LT:   9	 0:01 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 Qh2 25.a6 Nh4
26.axb7 Bxb7 27.Nd2 Nxf3 28.Rxb7+ Kf6 (1.034.420) 521.3
LT:   9	 0:01 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 fxe4 (1.034.459) 521.4
-----
 10	 0:03 	+0.99 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 bxa6 25.Na5 Bd7
26.Re2 hxg2 27.Rxg2 Rag8 28.Bxa6 Nxe3 29.Be1 (1.954.213) 504.3
 10	 0:03 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 22.Nf3 h3 23.Bxf5 exf5 24.fxg3 (1.954.238) 504.3
LT:   9	 0:01 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 Qh2 25.a6 Nh4
26.axb7 Bxb7 27.Nd2 Nxf3 28.Rxb7+ Kf6 (1.034.420) 521.3
LT:   9	 0:01 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 fxe4 (1.034.459) 521.4
-----
 10	 0:03 	+0.99 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 bxa6 25.Na5 Bd7
26.Re2 hxg2 27.Rxg2 Rag8 28.Bxa6 Nxe3 29.Be1 (1.954.213) 504.3
 10	 0:03 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 22.Nf3 h3 23.Bxf5 exf5 24.fxg3 (1.954.238) 504.3
 10	 0:03 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 (1.954.257) 504.3
LT:   9	 0:01 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 fxe4 (1.034.459) 521.4
-----
 10	 0:03 	+0.99 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 bxa6 25.Na5 Bd7
26.Re2 hxg2 27.Rxg2 Rag8 28.Bxa6 Nxe3 29.Be1 (1.954.213) 504.3
 10	 0:03 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 22.Nf3 h3 23.Bxf5 exf5 24.fxg3 (1.954.238) 504.3
 10	 0:03 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 (1.954.257) 504.3
 10	 0:03 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 fxe4 (1.954.268) 504.3
-----
 11	 0:07 	+1.02 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 bxa6 25.Na5 Qc7
26.Re2 hxg2 27.Rxg2 Nxe3 28.Ng5+ Ke7 29.Bb5 Nxc2 30.Nxc6+ Qxc6 (3.795.307) 476.2
LT:  10	 0:03 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 22.Nf3 h3 23.Bxf5 exf5 24.fxg3 (1.954.238)
504.3
LT:  10	 0:03 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 (1.954.257)
504.3
LT:  10	 0:03 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 fxe4 (1.954.268) 504.3
-----
 11	 0:07 	+1.02 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 bxa6 25.Na5 Qc7
26.Re2 hxg2 27.Rxg2 Nxe3 28.Ng5+ Ke7 29.Bb5 Nxc2 30.Nxc6+ Qxc6 (3.795.307) 476.2
 11	 0:07 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 22.Nf3 h3 23.Bxf5 exf5 24.fxg3 (3.795.342) 476.2
LT:  10	 0:03 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 (1.954.257)
504.3
LT:  10	 0:03 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 fxe4 (1.954.268) 504.3
-----
 11	 0:07 	+1.02 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 bxa6 25.Na5 Qc7
26.Re2 hxg2 27.Rxg2 Nxe3 28.Ng5+ Ke7 29.Bb5 Nxc2 30.Nxc6+ Qxc6 (3.795.307) 476.2
 11	 0:07 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 22.Nf3 h3 23.Bxf5 exf5 24.fxg3 (3.795.342) 476.2
 11	 0:07 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 (3.795.366) 476.2
LT:  10	 0:03 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 fxe4 (1.954.268) 504.3
-----
 11	 0:07 	+1.02 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.Nf3 gxf2+ 23.Rxf2 h3 24.a6 bxa6 25.Na5 Qc7
26.Re2 hxg2 27.Rxg2 Nxe3 28.Ng5+ Ke7 29.Bb5 Nxc2 30.Nxc6+ Qxc6 (3.795.307) 476.2
 11	 0:07 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 22.Nf3 h3 23.Bxf5 exf5 24.fxg3 (3.795.342) 476.2
 11	 0:07 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 (3.795.366) 476.2
 11	 0:07 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 (3.795.390) 476.2
-----
 12	 0:27 	+1.05 	21.Kg1 Ng4 22.a6 bxa6 23.Qe2 gxf2+ 24.Rxf2 Nxf2 25.Qxf2 h3
26.e4 dxe4 27.Bxe4 hxg2 28.Bxc6 (12.411.403) 455.1
LT:  11	 0:07 	+0.61 	21.Kh1 Ng4 22.Nf3 h3 23.Bxf5 exf5 24.fxg3 (3.795.342)
476.2
LT:  11	 0:07 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 (3.795.366)
476.2
LT:  11	 0:07 	  -M8 	21.Kh3 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Nf4+ 23.exf4 (3.795.390) 476.2
xf5 exf5 24.fxg3 (3.795.342) 476.2
LT:  11	 0:07 	-1.31 	21.fxg3 Ng4+ 22.Kg1 hxg3 23.Rf3 Qh4 24.Kf1 (3.795.366)
476.2
LT:  11	 0:07 	  -M8 	21.K



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