Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 02:50:31 06/14/03
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On June 14, 2003 at 05:24:34, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>On June 14, 2003 at 04:59:09, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>English:
>>We are going to start a long tournament at 120'/60 under the conditions
>>mentioned below. As you will see, we want to merely test the strength of the
>>engines. Therefore, the remis.ctg will be used instead of the own books. And
>>book learning is of course deactivated. Furthermore, the programs will have no
>>access to the EGTB so that we can see the proper endgame knowledge of the
>>engines. Hints about the outcome of this tournament are welcome. We are
>>publishing first results after 10 rounds.
>>
>I think not letting programs have access to endgame tablebases is clearly
>wrong! Because tablebases have been created for using them with engines,
>to improve their endgame play. And furthermore some programmers may not include
>code for some positions, because with the help of EGTB the engine will play
>properly.
>I honestly don't understand why you decided that. It's like not letting
>in a human tournament, the people to have some advice from their coach or
>not letting them to read the new book from Kasparov about endgames, because
>you want to see their real strength.
>Because if Shredder 7.04 for example is able to play the endgame with 2710 ELO
>and Chess Tiger with 2690 with the help of EGTB and without EGTB Shredder
>would play it with 2680 and CT with 2675 then we have an unfair competition
>if we wont let engines use EGTB.
Your example does not prove much. A difference of 5 Elo
can't be noticed between two engines. And BTW, I have
seen/read some time ago disputes about the question if
the use of EGTB's would bring anything to increase playing
strength http://f11.parsimony.net/forum16635/messages/49266.htm
Kurt
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