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Subject: Re: "RK 2003" Start of tournament 120'/60

Author: Ryan B.

Date: 04:35:48 06/14/03

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On June 14, 2003 at 07:00:40, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On June 14, 2003 at 06:46:41, Tomas Casanovas Martinez wrote:
>
>>On June 14, 2003 at 05:37:18, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On June 14, 2003 at 04:59:09, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>English:
>>>>We are going to start a long tournament at 120'/60 under the conditions
>>>>mentioned below. As you will see, we want to merely test the strength of the
>>>>engines. Therefore, the remis.ctg will be used instead of the own books. And
>>>>book learning is of course deactivated. Furthermore, the programs will have no
>>>>access to the EGTB so that we can see the proper endgame knowledge of the
>>>>engines. Hints about the outcome of this tournament are welcome. We are
>>>>publishing first results after 10 rounds.
>>>>
>>>>Deutsch:
>>>>Wir starten ein langes Turnier mit 120'/60 und den untenerwähnten Bedingungen.
>>>>Uns interessiert lediglich die reine Spielstärke der Programme. Deshalb wird
>>>>generell das Buch remis.ctg verwendet. Buchlernen ist selbstverständlich
>>>>deaktiviert. Und schliesslich haben die Programme auch keinen Zugriff auf die
>>>>Tablebases, so dass wir das reine Endspielwissen der Engines bewundern dürfen.
>>>>Prognosen über den Endstand dieses Turniers sind willkommen. Erste Resultate
>>>>werden wir nach 10 Runden bekanntgeben.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Conditions / Spielbedingungen
>>>>Tournament / Turnier RK 2003
>>>>Time control / Spielstufe: 120'/60+60'/30+30'
>>>>Ath 1.3/64 MB hash [CT_15=48 MB]
>>>>ponder=off
>>>>book=remis.ctg [no book learning / kein Buchlernen]
>>>>EGTB=no / nein
>>>>8 participants / Teilnehmer
>>>>280 games / Partien
>>>>10 games for each engine vs other opponents / 10 Partien je Engine gegen alle
>>>>anderen
>>>>Tester: Rolf Bühler
>>>>Published by / Veröffentlichung via Kurt Utzinger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Participants / Teilnehmer
>>>>
>>>>1) Chess Tiger 15
>>>>2) CM9 SKR
>>>>3) Deep Sjeng 1.5
>>>>4) Fritz 8.0.0.8
>>>>5) Hiarcs 8
>>>>6) Junior 8
>>>>7) Ruffian 1.0.1
>>>>8) Shredder 7.04
>>>
>>>This is the outcome that I predict under these condictions, winner from top to
>>>bottom.
>>>
>>>Fritz 8.0.0.8
>>>Shredder 7.04
>>>CM9 SKR
>>>Junior8
>>>Chess Tiger 15
>>>Deep Sjeng 1.5
>>>Ruffian 1.0.1
>>>Hiarcs 8
>>>
>>>Pichard
>>
>>This tourney looks pretty interesting, Kurt. My forecast is substantially
>>different:
>>
>>1.- Shredder 7.04
>>2.- Fritz 8.0.0.8
>>3 and 4  (about tied) Junior8 and CM9 SKR
>>5.- Chess Tiger 15
>>6.- Hiarcs 8
>>7.- Ruffian 1.0.1
>>8.- Deep Sjeng 1.5
>>
>>I have no seen yet one program able to beat Shredder 7.04 at the level you are
>>setting for your tourney. On the other hand, despite the clear improvement and
>>the good job made by Gian Carlo P., I do not expect that Deep Sjeng 1.5 can
>>avoid the last place.
>>
>>I will print my forecast and compare it later with the actual results of the
>>tourney. We will enjoy following it.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Tom Casanovas
>>Barcelona - Spain.
>
>     Hi Tom
>     I am collecting the various forecasts.
>     Kurt

May seem crazy but I forecast
1.- Junior8
2.- Shredder 7.04
3.- Fritz 8.0.0.8
4.- CM9 SKR
5.- Deep Sjeng 1.5
6.- Chess Tiger 15
7.- Hiarcs 8
8.- Ruffian 1.0.1 (could be 7 if run in WB)

My tests show J8 is great in long games and DS1.5 can be surprisingly good.  I
can't wait to see the results.

Ryan



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