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Subject: Re: "RK 2003" Start of tournament 120'/60

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 07:34:20 06/15/03

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On June 14, 2003 at 21:15:24, James T. Walker wrote:

>On June 14, 2003 at 08:54:47, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On June 14, 2003 at 08:18:08, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>"Furthermore, the programs will have no access to the EGTB so that we can see
>>>the proper endgame knowledge of the engines."
>>>
>>>This statement implies that tablebases are "improper" endgame knowledge!?
>>>Tablebases shorten games (time) and I suspect some engines depend on them for
>>>many positions where it would be tedious to program special knowledge for each
>>>position(KNNKP/KBNK etc).  Leaving them out is a mistake in my opinion.
>>
>>    In the sense I do understand "knowledge" for chess
>>    programs, the EGTB must no be used. You may of course
>>    be right that some programs depend more than others
>>    from EGTB. But cannot the same difference be said if
>>    some programs do handle the EGTB access much more effective
>>    than others? And as already said: it's just our aim
>>    to learn a bit more about such things and differences.
>>    Personally spoken, I do not think that Shredder704 will
>>    take last place because of missing tablebases.
>>    Kurt
>
>To put it another way, what is the downside of using tablebases?
>Jim


     Hi Jim
     A good question ... I "resign" ... and as you have surely
     noticed, we have changed our mind and are using the 3- and
     4-men EGTB in our tournament "RK 2003"
     Kurt



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