Author: Uri Blass
Date: 06:22:19 06/16/03
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On June 16, 2003 at 08:57:45, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >On June 16, 2003 at 08:08:14, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On June 16, 2003 at 08:04:29, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>On June 16, 2003 at 07:21:41, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>> >>>>RK 2003 tournament 120'/60 >>>>The games ara available for download >>>>under section "RK 2003" at >>>>Homepage "Kurt & Rolf Chess": http://www.beepworld.de/members39/utzinger >>>>Kurt >>> >>>Just like I always stated Shredder7 or 7.04 engine is not stronger than Fritz >>>8.0.0.8 or ChessMaster. If Chessmaster had a better Opening book, it would >>>become an unbeatable monster. >>> >>>Pichard >> >> Time will tell ... in my opinion Shredder704 is the strongest >> program at the moment. But there are still 66 rounds to go. >> Kurt > >Kurt I find it interesting that running time control in analysis fritz gives >best performance over all of the engines, including Shredder 7.04. To me that is >the qualification for the program with the best chess knowledge. Other programs >might be better than Fritz8 at discrete time controls but for long time thinking >Fritz8 has no equal. >Crafty is also good and once in a while suggests a better move than Fritz, but >when I play Crafty against Fritz in long time control where I force the move at >level 18-20 depending on engine output Fritz8 wins. > >Thanks >Wayne I think that it depends on the position. Here is an example when Fritz8 played poorly in analysis of one of my correspondence games. Fritz8 suggested 9...Ne4 10.d5 f5 in the pv after some hours and I decided to check this line. This line may be not the best(I do not know) but it does not change the fact that Fritz played weak in the game that I give(time control is practically more slower than 240/40 because I gave both sides the right to use more time by +200% so the sides had 12 hours/40 moves on A1000) The game is today at move 31 (I did not choose Ne4) so I am sure that the game that I give cannot help the opponent (234) Shredder 7 - Fritz 8 [E15] URI-PC, 240'/40+240'/40+240' URI-PC (1), 06.02.2003 W=16.0 ply; 141kN/s B=15.0 ply; 417kN/s 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3 Bb4+ 6.Bd2 Be7 7.Bg2 Bb7 8.0-0 0-0 9.Nc3 Ne4 10.d5 f5 Both last book move 11.Qc2 0.47/16 36:38 Nxd2 0.19/15 1:04:36 12.Qxd2 0.48/16 12:54 a6 (Na6) 0.00/14 17:29 13.Rad1 0.79/15 22:55 Qe8 (Bd6) 0.22/15 40:00 14.Ne1 (Nd4) 0.84/15 23:45 14...Ra7 0.34/15 1:04:25 15.Nd3 0.84/15 26:41 Qh5 (Kh8) 0.34/13 17:49 16.Rfe1 0.88/15 20:45 Bg5 0.44/15 48:44 17.e3 0.99/16 33:40 Qh6 0.44/14 20:14 18.c5 1.04/15 28:09 Be7 0.50/15 34:11 19.b4 1.14/14 13:31 Bf6 (Rc8) 0.53/14 26:56 20.Qc2 (Ne2) 1.20/15 24:01 20...Kh8 0.56/14 32:53 21.Na4 1.19/15 21:32 Bd8 0.66/15 26:42 22.c6 (Qb3) 1.21/15 18:16 22...dxc6 (Bc8) 0.69/16 25:13 23.dxc6 1.19/13 27 Bc8 0.62/15 13:37 24.Nab2 1.69/17 20:47 Bf6 (Be7) 0.94/16 22:17 25.Nc4 1.80/16 8:11 g6 (Qh5) 1.03/15 15:41 26.a4 1.89/18 43:21 Qg7 1.28/15 18:29 27.f4 1.89/17 45:32 g5 (a5) 1.37/15 28:54 28.a5 2.19/16 24:13 Bd8 (b5) 1.44/14 16:07 29.axb6 2.29/15 22:07 cxb6 1.47/15 17:41 30.Nde5 2.26/16 24:01 b5 (Qc7) 1.41/14 13:57 31.Nd6 2.58/16 23:39 Bb6 1.53/14 11:08 32.Kh1 2.56/15 21:02 Re7 1.47/13 11:06 33.Qb3 2.63/15 18:32 Qf6 (Bc7) 1.47/15 52:37 34.Qc3 2.62/16 29:45 Kg8 1.41/14 10:39 35.e4 (Rd3) 2.57/14 23:40 35...h6 (gxf4) 1.41/13 26:33 36.Qf3 2.87/13 22:35 gxf4 1.56/12 9:27 37.gxf4 3.24/14 21:35 Bc7 (Kh7) adjud. 1.81/12 11:40 1-0 Uri
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