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Subject: Re: Draw claims

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 08:45:36 06/17/03

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On June 17, 2003 at 10:11:46, Thomas Mayer wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>I just had a discussion about draws in the winboard forum... In my mind there is
>the following theoretical game:
>
>There is a situation where Quark would fail:
>[Event "Test game for Andreas"]
>[Site "Virtually in my head"]
>[Date "2003.06.17"]
>[White "Left part of my head v31"]
>[Black "Right part of my head v31"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[TimeControl "endless"]
>1. h3 h6 2. Rh2 Rh7 3. Rh1 Rh8 {in fact this is the first repetition, because
>of changed castling rights, Quark would think that it is NO repetition}
>4. Rh2 Rh7 5. Rh1 Rh8 6. Rh2 Rh7 7. Rh1 Rh8 1/2-1/2 {draw it would take Quark
>one repetition more to see that - of course I see no importance in this
>example, I have no problems with draws announced a bit to late if they are
>anyway correct - but I have problems with draws that are announced to early}
>
>After testing that with other GUIs (e.g. ChessBase) I found out that they do
>also not claim this as a draw after 7. ... Rh8 -> In my opinion this IS
>according to the rules draw, but the GUIs only claim draw after a theoretical 8.
>Rh2 Rh7... So who is right ?
>
>Greets, Thomas

The position after 7... Rh8 can be claimed as a draw according to the rules.
Even 6... Rh7 leads to a three-fold repetition (same position as after 2... Rh7
and 4... Rh7, both sides have lost the right to castle kingside). If the
programs or GUI are setted up to claim a draw as soon as allowed by the rules,
then there is something wrong somewhere if they do not after 6... Rh7
José.



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