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Subject: Re: Are programs good enough to play at postal GM level?

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 08:36:55 06/18/03

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On June 18, 2003 at 01:46:51, Peter Hegger wrote:

>Hello,
>On very fast hardware with todays best programs, how would those programs fare
>in a round robin correspondence tournament playing exclusively against postal
>GMs?
>Even if they couldn't yet compete at this level, how far off is the day when
>they are bona fide postal GM strength?
>Opinions?
>Regards,
>Peter

Yes if you ask me they are
ofcourse a rating of 2100 would be bezerk for computer programs in corspondence
chess
But you could play these games like Uri does  for a higher rating
then you would have with one program.

(You always thought I did make my anelyzes in this way but that was a big
mistake.
I only used them for assistence
 I was depresive because I couldn' refind some of my anelyzes rember
If it where computer moves than  it wouldn't have been a problem
And by luck my memory is not as good as that from a GM otherwise you could
imagine  I would have been nuts by now.
by rembering all ecos till move 40 and above
Though I doubt that a GM rembers realy everthing he has ever seen.)

If it now would be corspondence players would play good games it would be totaly
diferent
But there are only few games on corspondence chess wich are of theoretical
importance
And most of them are from the pre computer time!

Though still it is possible to outplay computer programs without being games of
theoretical importance.
It is wise to choose openings moves which are not used in the openings books
Or only a few variations
After which the programs might have difecultys finding a good strategic plan.
actualy I already mentioned that the flaw of strategy in computerchess is most
of time because of wrong evalution of mobilety.
You might look at some postions of my analyzes which contain strategic plans
which are not even considered by the programs of today.
And nullmove is worse then Normal search of finding a strategic idea.
Nullmove sometimes act's like it doesn't mather which move it plays.
While there is only one way of strategy in the postion.
It can be the difference between a win a draw or a loss in an endgame!
And the diference between if you have to attack or defend in a midle game or
opening.
Or contineus attack or an attack resulting in an unclear postion.

And again speed is not of real importance aslong as the knowledge is not big
enough.
when it finds it ok to have unmobilized pieces and neglect's mobilety
It is only bashing harder against an emptyness .
Infact computers should be superior in gambits especialy with longer time
controls but it is just the opesite for most programs.

Actualy I response in this way because I am busy building a sound openings book
And reanelyze the postions with programs as asistence.
And most of them are not always of much use.

The anelyze I made about the Lion  is good example of that.


Marc




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