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Subject: Re: you do not know the facts. No, You Don't Smith!

Author: Alex

Date: 12:12:10 06/18/03

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On June 18, 2003 at 14:38:41, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On June 18, 2003 at 14:07:29, Mr j smith wrote:
>
>>On June 18, 2003 at 13:02:31, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>obviously you did not know the facts. On the websites chessbase.com and
>>>chessbase.de there were prior to the release and a few days after a wrong
>>>advertisement which claimed that J8 will also include the versions which were
>>>used in New York. There are several printed ads too, which claimed that.
>>>
>>>To take your example: This would be a similiar situation, if Mercedes Benz
>>>advertized its new S-Class in two versions, claiming that each version will have
>>>air conditioning system. Now you buy the cheaper one and notice that there is no
>>>air conditioning system. You ask Mercedes what is the reason and the say, sorry
>>>it was a mistka of our marketing department. We corrected the advertisments and
>>>sorry your version has no air conditioning system.
>>>
>>>Every court in every country will give you the right in such a case, to either
>>>give your product back or to get compensation for the lack of an assured
>>>characterisitc of the product.
>>>
>>>Do you agree?
>>>
>>>On June 18, 2003 at 12:50:24, Mr j smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>For those who continue to insist that Chessbase has wronged them by not
>>>>including 2 free engines with their purchase of Junior 8, in the face of the
>>>>plain meaning of the advertisments (which clearly state that only Deep Junior
>>>>purchasers receive the 2 free engines ), in contrast to the ambiguous cd covers,
>>>>and example from the real world may help show why your whining will fail to
>>>>bring you satisfaction.
>>>>
>>>>Suppose that a franchise holder of Mercedes Benz automobiles places an ad in
>>>>various newspapers and by accident the people in charge of the advertising copy
>>>>switch prices and certain details of a Mercedes Benz with a plain old Ford
>>>>sedan.  In my example instead of selling for $50,000 the Benz was advertised for
>>>>$10,000.
>>>>
>>>>Do you think it would be both fair and legal for Mercedes Benz to honor such a
>>>>mistake?  Of course not.  There is no court in the United States that would
>>>>honor such an obvious mistake, and in the United States, there is the UCC
>>>>(Uniform Commercial Code) which deals with such issues.
>>>>
>>>>From the examples of advertised print that I have seen it would seem that there
>>>>was a mistake on the part of the advertisement department of Chessbase, which
>>>>Chessbase almost immediately rectified.  The mistake however is only
>>>>superficial; the CD cover.  A careful reading of all the ad copy clearly states
>>>>that only Deep Junior 8 was offering 2 free engines, not Junior8.
>>
>>
>>No, unfortunately for you, I am not wrong.  The printed ads I have seen here do
>>not give rise to any claim on the part of purchasers of Junior8.  Chessbase made
>>a mistake and almost immediately rectified the ads.  Furthermore, if you
>>carefully read the ads, which for some reason you refuse to do, it is clear that
>>the 2 free engines come only with deep junior, not junior 8.
>
>No you're wrong...first it took about 2 or 3 weeks before ChessBase rectified
>their error with their advertising at the ChessBase site, and two you _can't_
>send a product out explaining, "With Junior 8 you get two engines the latest
>version of Junior 8 and the original version that played Kasparov." and _not_
>deliver!
>
>Notice it says Junior 8 and _not_ Deep Junior 8!
>
>Take your Bullshit elsewhere!
>
>T.M.
 HEAR HEAR!  Why not just fix it chessbase??  Mr. "J" Continues to ignore the
facts....... Indeed as posted here advertised as 2 count em 2 engines.  Alex



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