Author: Matthew White
Date: 13:58:15 06/18/03
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On June 18, 2003 at 16:23:01, Mr j smith wrote: >On June 18, 2003 at 15:12:10, Alex wrote: > >>On June 18, 2003 at 14:38:41, Terry McCracken wrote: >> >>>On June 18, 2003 at 14:07:29, Mr j smith wrote: >>> >>>>On June 18, 2003 at 13:02:31, Joachim Rang wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi, >>>>> >>>>>obviously you did not know the facts. On the websites chessbase.com and >>>>>chessbase.de there were prior to the release and a few days after a wrong >>>>>advertisement which claimed that J8 will also include the versions which were >>>>>used in New York. There are several printed ads too, which claimed that. >>>>> >>>>>To take your example: This would be a similiar situation, if Mercedes Benz >>>>>advertized its new S-Class in two versions, claiming that each version will have >>>>>air conditioning system. Now you buy the cheaper one and notice that there is no >>>>>air conditioning system. You ask Mercedes what is the reason and the say, sorry >>>>>it was a mistka of our marketing department. We corrected the advertisments and >>>>>sorry your version has no air conditioning system. >>>>> >>>>>Every court in every country will give you the right in such a case, to either >>>>>give your product back or to get compensation for the lack of an assured >>>>>characterisitc of the product. >>>>> >>>>>Do you agree? >>>>> >>>>>On June 18, 2003 at 12:50:24, Mr j smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>For those who continue to insist that Chessbase has wronged them by not >>>>>>including 2 free engines with their purchase of Junior 8, in the face of the >>>>>>plain meaning of the advertisments (which clearly state that only Deep Junior >>>>>>purchasers receive the 2 free engines ), in contrast to the ambiguous cd covers, >>>>>>and example from the real world may help show why your whining will fail to >>>>>>bring you satisfaction. >>>>>> >>>>>>Suppose that a franchise holder of Mercedes Benz automobiles places an ad in >>>>>>various newspapers and by accident the people in charge of the advertising copy >>>>>>switch prices and certain details of a Mercedes Benz with a plain old Ford >>>>>>sedan. In my example instead of selling for $50,000 the Benz was advertised for >>>>>>$10,000. >>>>>> >>>>>>Do you think it would be both fair and legal for Mercedes Benz to honor such a >>>>>>mistake? Of course not. There is no court in the United States that would >>>>>>honor such an obvious mistake, and in the United States, there is the UCC >>>>>>(Uniform Commercial Code) which deals with such issues. >>>>>> >>>>>>From the examples of advertised print that I have seen it would seem that there >>>>>>was a mistake on the part of the advertisement department of Chessbase, which >>>>>>Chessbase almost immediately rectified. The mistake however is only >>>>>>superficial; the CD cover. A careful reading of all the ad copy clearly states >>>>>>that only Deep Junior 8 was offering 2 free engines, not Junior8. >>>> >>>> >>>>No, unfortunately for you, I am not wrong. The printed ads I have seen here do >>>>not give rise to any claim on the part of purchasers of Junior8. Chessbase made >>>>a mistake and almost immediately rectified the ads. Furthermore, if you >>>>carefully read the ads, which for some reason you refuse to do, it is clear that >>>>the 2 free engines come only with deep junior, not junior 8. >>> >>>No you're wrong...first it took about 2 or 3 weeks before ChessBase rectified >>>their error with their advertising at the ChessBase site, and two you _can't_ >>>send a product out explaining, "With Junior 8 you get two engines the latest >>>version of Junior 8 and the original version that played Kasparov." and _not_ >>>deliver! >>> >>>Notice it says Junior 8 and _not_ Deep Junior 8! >>> >>>Take your Bullshit elsewhere! >>> >>>T.M. >> HEAR HEAR! Why not just fix it chessbase?? Mr. "J" Continues to ignore the >>facts....... Indeed as posted here advertised as 2 count em 2 engines. Alex > > >I fail to see why the need for Terry to get so vulgar and insulting. I hope >that all those who purchased the junior8 get their 2 free engines; I really do. >Its not my money. I am only pointing out that the ad in question is not clear. >In spite of what some may say, its not all clear that Chessbase need honor any >misunderstanding. There is clear and plain language in their ads that the 2 >free engines are available to purchasers of Deep Junior. > >If chessbase wants to give you 2 free engines, more power to you. The ads that you viewed were changed when the problem was realized. Matt
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