Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 22:47:49 06/18/03
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On June 18, 2003 at 19:34:21, Mr j smith wrote: >On June 18, 2003 at 18:59:05, Anthony Boynes wrote: > >>On June 18, 2003 at 18:54:04, Mr j smith wrote: >> >>> >>>As I have stated, from what I have seen, it seems that Chessbase doesnt have to >>>provide free engines since its ads clearly state that the engines are included >>>with Deep Junior only. >> >> >>Wrong. Several ads, including articles directly from the main Chessbase web >>site clearly stated that 2 engines would be provided with Junior 8. > >As I stated above, the ads I have read. I have yet to read the ad you mention. At ChessBase, no you will not find those ads, their gone for a couple of weeks now. But they were there for no less than 10 days and many people ordered Junior 8 before the release date! I was one of them! Also some early packages shipped had it right on the bloody cover, what more evidence do you need? None! This site still has the false advertising up! Also the London Chess Center! JUNIOR 8 Double World Champion -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This chess program, written by the Israelis Amir Ban and Shay Bushinsky, has achieved everything it could wish for. Junior won the Computer Chess World Championship in 2001 and 2002, and it can look back on a string of successes against human beings in tournaments and matches. Unforgettable its performance against Garry Kasparov in the "Man vs Machine" match in New York in January 2003. With millions of people following on the Internet, double world champion Junior played exciting, imaginative chess to hold the world's strongest player to a 3:3 draw. With Junior 8 you get two chess engines. One is the original engine that played in the Kasparov match, the second is the most recent, further developed version. But it is not just the engine that is fully up-to-date. With Junior 8 you get the latest Fritz 8 user interface which has delighted fans all over the world. You get the latest training functions for the opening, middle and endgame; new photo-realistic 3D boards in custom-designed silver and surreal hot-air balloons. It includes twelve months of free access to Playchess.com, the world fastest-growing chess server. And you get the latest Junior tournament book, developed by GM Boris Alterman, as well as a database of 500,000 high-quality games. System requirements: Pentium or compatible PC, Win98, Me, 2000, XP, 32 MB RAM, CD ROM drive & mouse. JUNIOR 8 - $47.95 http://www.chess4less.com/2-junior8.htm And this e-mail with an apology from ChessBase stating what I said above about the cover...however they are _not_ offering to remedy the situation, only to say sorry will you let it go...in so many words. =============================================================================== Dear chess friend, many thanks for your mail. Unfortunately there is a mistake in the text of the Junior8 DVD box. The Junior engine that played Kasparov in February was a version for multiprocessor systems only. In fact there is simply no single processor version of that multiprocessor engine. That's why the engine that played Kasparov is included on the DeepJunior8 CD-ROM only but not on the standard Junior8 CD. We bag your pardon for that mistake. Since there simply is no single processor version of that engine we will not be able to provide you with a fix/upgrade. Many thanks for your understanding. Yours sincerely, Steffen Giehring http://www.chessbase.com ChessBase GmbH, Mexikoring 35, 22297 Hamburg (++49)(40)63 90 60 10 ================================================================================ So all who purchased Junior 8 believing they were going to recieve more than one engine, deserve compensation. It's cut and dry. However, will ChessBase review this matter and fix it? Only time will tell. The best solution would be, IMHO, Amir Ban and Shay Bushinsky, to supply ChessBase the extra engines in single processor format, as a patch to Junior 8. It's really that simple. Please don't argue over the obvious, it's annoying. Terry P.S. Yes I know everyone with Junior 8 will get them then, but so what....it's good business sense, everyone will come away happy, and Junior 8 sales will rise! Deep Junior 8 sales will not be affected very much and Junior 8 then should offset any financial loss. It would probably make them more money, with Junior and any release of Junior in the future and keep both the integrity of ChessBase intact and keep and possibly increase overall sales on their chess software. It sure won't hurt them! Doing Nothing...Probably Will!
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