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Subject: Re: Ooops

Author: Keith Evans

Date: 10:59:14 06/19/03

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On June 19, 2003 at 13:46:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 18, 2003 at 22:59:49, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On June 18, 2003 at 20:25:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On June 18, 2003 at 13:35:08, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 17, 2003 at 20:44:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not sure how Stobor would do vs. Crafty right now, as I haven't really
>>>>>>worked hard on my program for several years now, but Stobor has been stronger
>>>>>>than Crafty in the past so don't be so sure that Bob is more "clever" than me in
>>>>>>that regard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>We only count reality, not dreams.
>>>>>
>>>>>:)
>>>>
>>>>Ha ha, that's a lame dream, to have a program stronger than Crafty. My dream is
>>>>to have a program stronger than Shredder.
>>>>
>>>>-Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>You have to pass crafty first, along the way.  I'm knowledgable enough to know
>>>my program isn't stronger than Fritz, etc.  I also know enough to know Stobor
>>>has _never_ been stronger than crafty, nor even as strong.  Yes you might
>>>have won a game here and there.  But pick any 10 consecutive games you want.
>>>
>>>ICC has only 4 such games in its database.  Crafty won two and drew two.  No
>>>losses.
>>>
>>>I would not write checks _my_ program can't cash.  You shouldn't either.
>>
>>10 consecutive games? Okay. How about games 11 to 20 when you do a "search
>>crafty kerrigan" on ICC? I scored 55%.
>>
>>Funny thing is, my hardware has always been much slower than yours, too.
>>
>>Should I also say something inane about check cashing?
>>
>>-Tom
>
>
>OK.  What about all games?  Crafty:  22 wins.  12 losses.
>
>     what about the first 20 games?  Crafty 8 wins, 4 losses, rest draws.
>
>Your way of measuring "better" is _really_ pretty stupid.  Any statistician
>can tell you why.  I can play 100 games vs fritz and lost 70-30, but I can
>probably find 10 games in a row where I had more wins than losses.  It
>proves _nothing_ of course.
>
>So say whatever you want about check cashing.  But just don't write any.


You told him "pick any 10 consecutive games you want" and he did. So it's _your_
method. Say what you mean and mean what you say.



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