Author: Joachim Rang
Date: 13:05:36 06/19/03
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On June 18, 2003 at 18:54:04, Mr j smith wrote: >On June 18, 2003 at 18:02:23, Joachim Rang wrote: > >>On June 18, 2003 at 14:04:21, Mr j smith wrote: >> >>>On June 18, 2003 at 13:05:13, Joachim Rang wrote: >>> >>>>On June 18, 2003 at 12:50:24, Mr j smith wrote: >>>> >>>>>For those who continue to insist that Chessbase has wronged them by not >>>>>including 2 free engines with their purchase of Junior 8, in the face of the >>>>>plain meaning of the advertisments (which clearly state that only Deep Junior >>>>>purchasers receive the 2 free engines ), in contrast to the ambiguous cd covers, >>>>>and example from the real world may help show why your whining will fail to >>>>>bring you satisfaction. >>>>> >>>>>Suppose that a franchise holder of Mercedes Benz automobiles places an ad in >>>>>various newspapers and by accident the people in charge of the advertising copy >>>>>switch prices and certain details of a Mercedes Benz with a plain old Ford >>>>>sedan. In my example instead of selling for $50,000 the Benz was advertised for >>>>>$10,000. >>>> >>>>This is a different case. >>> >>>No it isnt a different case. Its the same logic. >>> >>> >> >>I'm afraid not. I'm not a lawyer but I had a course in civil law in the >>university and there is a big difference between these two cases. the difference >>is mainly due to the fact that in one case you already purchased the product, >>which gives you certain rights in your example you didn't yet purchased the >>product which gives you not such rights. I could quote for you the paragraphs of >>the german civil law - but I think you are not interested. I'm pretty sure that >>in America these laws are similiar. >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> An error in an ad, don't give you the right to make a >>>>purchase based on that error. If you already bought a product and it lacks >>>>certain assured characteristics (due to an error in the ad for example) you have >>>>the right to demand either a fix or a compensation. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Do you think it would be both fair and legal for Mercedes Benz to honor such a >>>>>mistake? Of course not. There is no court in the United States that would >>>>>honor such an obvious mistake, and in the United States, there is the UCC >>>>>(Uniform Commercial Code) which deals with such issues. >>>>> >>>>>From the examples of advertised print that I have seen it would seem that there >>>>>was a mistake on the part of the advertisement department of Chessbase, which >>>>>Chessbase almost immediately rectified. The mistake however is only >>>>>superficial; the CD cover. A careful reading of all the ad copy clearly states >>>>>that only Deep Junior 8 was offering 2 free engines, not Junior8. >>> >>>No, > > >Germany and most of Europe has laws based on the Roman civil code. In America, >our laws are based upon the English Common law. > >As I have stated, from what I have seen, it seems that Chessbase doesnt have to >provide free engines since its ads clearly state that the engines are included >with Deep Junior only. Obviously you don't believe the people here who claim, that there were old ads and that Chessbase changed these ads. Chessbase itself admitted the wrong ads - so your speculations are nonsens. Here is the description which was on the Chessbase site and which is still on Chessbase ch and in two print chess magazines in Germany. http://www.chess4less.com/2-junior8.htm regards Joachim
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