Author: Alessio Iacovoni
Date: 01:47:41 10/22/98
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On October 22, 1998 at 04:19:40, blass uri wrote: > >On October 22, 1998 at 04:04:33, Alessio Iacovoni wrote: > >>On October 22, 1998 at 03:31:10, blass uri wrote: >> >>> >>>On October 22, 1998 at 03:22:57, Alessio Iacovoni wrote: >>> >>>>I just finished my tests with the engine-engine function of Junior. This time I >>>>was careful to reduce hash sizes in order to avoid any mistakes from possible >>>>delay due to the hard disk grinding (I believe this was the reason for those >>>>problems in the previous tests). >>>> >>>>Processor: AMD 200 MMX >>>>Cache: 8 M >>>>Total games:32 >>>>Time control: 10 minutes >>>>Book settings: Same openings played by both sides >>>>Book: Fritz5 >>>>Result: >>>> >>>>Hiarcs 6: 10 >>>>Junior 5: 10 >>>>Draws: 12 >>>> >>>>Just from these first results it is interesting to notice that when both sides >>>>play the same opening (eliminating any randomness), playing strength seems to >>>>even out incredibly. I wonder if test are carried out in the same way by SSDF. >>>>If not, why? >>> >>>not by the same way. >>> >>>1)They give every program its opening book because they want to test the level >>>of the program(good opening book is a part of it) >> >>As I have already stated in the past I don't agree with this... When talking >>about the strength of a program people generally (aside for experts) do not >>refer to the book but to the engine...Does SSDF explicitly state that program A >>+ book A ranks higher than program B + book B? If not it leads people to think >>that it it the engine alone that is stronger, which is not the case (see any >>thread on computer.chess). That I know of the SSDF lists do not mention at all >>the book used in listing the strength of the programs. > >They assume that it is obvious that they use the books that are sold with the >programs. > >I saw games and I know that they use the books of the programs. > >Sometimes the books are counter productive. >I saw a game between fritz5(Pentium200) and Mchess6(P90) that was a draw by >book(firtz5 was white). > >I think that fritz5 had good chances to win without book. >, >>> >>>2) they do not do engine v engine but play with 2 computers so every program can >>>"think" in the opponent's time. >>> >> >>Ok.. I know that. Separate computers is better. >> >>>3)They play 2 hours per 40 moves and not 10 minutes for all the game. >>> >> >>Why? Is that the time control usually adopted by the people that buy computer >>programs (WOW 2 hours/40 moves seems quite boring to play against a computer). >>Also.. can the ranking of a computer at 2h/40 moves say anything about it's >>strength at 30 minutes per game? or 10? > >I am interested in longer time control because I use the computer to help me in >my correspondence games. > Come on Uri.. you're not the "average" 90% i was referring to. >Uri >> >> >>>Uri
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