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Subject: Re: Chesstiger have a problem with FINE 70 position !?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:34:03 06/20/03

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On June 20, 2003 at 07:29:35, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On June 20, 2003 at 06:15:09, Joachim Rang wrote:
>
>>On June 20, 2003 at 05:05:24, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I'm running a test with Chesstiger 15 and the Valentin Albillo test set (see
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?301806) and what a surprise
>>>Chesstiger have a problem with the first position the well known FINE 70 (Kb1!);
>>>Crafty, Fritz, Hiarcs have no problem with this position; so why CT ? hashtable
>>>weakness, pruning weakness or somehting else ? Christophe, an idea ?
>>>
>>>>>
>>>I will publish the result for all positions later Celeron@875, 96 MB hash, 15
>>>min/pos
>>
>>
>>DeepSjeng has also Problems. At least in beta stage when I tested the program.
>>Gian-Carlo replied to my message with the argument, that tuning an engine for
>>this position makes it weaker in general pawn endgames. I'm sure the views
>>differ on that position but maybe Theron agrees with Gian-Carlo that this
>>specific position is an artificial one.
>>
>>regards Joachim
>
>this position is a question of search not tuning...

I think that GCP talked about tuning the
extension and pruning rules.

I can imagine that a change in the pruning rules that is productive for other
positions is not productive for this position.

I do not believe that it is impossible to fix the problem in a productive way
and I guess that the real reason is that in the same time of fixing the program
it is possible to do bigger improvements.

Uri

Uri



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