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Subject: Re: Junior 8 test: Junior 8 - Fritz 8.0.0.8 complete

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 07:07:56 06/21/03

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On June 21, 2003 at 03:44:17, Harald Faber wrote:

>On June 21, 2003 at 00:13:24, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On June 20, 2003 at 18:56:43, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>On June 20, 2003 at 12:59:01, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 20, 2003 at 12:30:02, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>the match is complete now. Junior 8 crushes Fritz 8.0.0.8 by 14.5-5.5. The most
>>>>>desastrous result I have seen so far for Fritz 8. I followed and looked at some
>>>>>games from round 10 on and must say, that Fritz 8 has been outplayed one game
>>>>>after another. Therefore Junior 8 - my personal opinion - absolutely deserves
>>>>>this clear win.
>>>>>
>>>>>Last match for Junior 8 is now against Chessmaster 9000 "Pillen".
>>>>>
>>>>>Games, results and intermediates at www.harald-faber.de
>>>>
>>>>Will you try Ver. 8.0.0.23 against Junior 8?
>>>
>>>
>>>No. For a simple reason: This engine version is buggy. Like the 8.0.0.19.
>>>
>>>
>>>>In two engine matches I played set for Blitz 4'+2", 100 Games each, Fritz
>>>>8.0.0.23 crushed Junior 8, by collecting about 67% of the points.
>>>>Terry
>>>
>>>
>>>This is absolutely not comparable with my setup.
>>
>>Yeah too buggy...well guess what, they _all_ have bugs, and Junior is no
>>exception.
>>
>>This doesn't mean 8.0.0.23 plays worse in games in general due to the Nxe4 Bug,
>>it may still play better overall.
>
>
>Despite of this Nxe4 bug? I doubt that.
>
>
>>I doubt my test is totally invalid. Why would it be?
>
>
>I didn't say your test is invalid. You are just using a totally different match
>setup (1 PC, 4'+2") than I do (2 PCs, 40/120'+60'). So it is VERY unlikely that
>your results fit to mine.
>
>
>>It should be tested as well IMHO.
>>Terry
>
>
>There can be tested so much more, Fritz 8.0.0.23, CM 9000, CM 9000 SKR, Ruffian
>e.g. At the moment it is not planned to test them, maybe I'll do it after my
>original test is complete.

Thanks for this reply, if you test 8.0.0.23 it may do better or maybe the fast
T/C was to Fritzs advantage, it's hard to say? I do agree with you the two PCs,
at 40/120'+60 albiet it takes more time is a much better test for strength then
runing a long blitz engine match.

Regards,
 Terry



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