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Subject: Re: LCT I #23, LCTII #FIN09

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:27:31 10/22/98

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On October 22, 1998 at 14:25:28, Mark Young wrote:

>On October 22, 1998 at 13:03:26, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>    a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
>>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>8 |   |///|   |///|   |///|   |///| 8
>>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>7 |///|   |///|   |///| B |/p/|   | 7
>>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>6 |   |///|   |///| P |///|   |///| 6
>>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>5 |///|   |///|   |///|   |/p/| P | 5
>>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>4 |   |/b/|   |/k/|   |/P/|   |///| 4
>>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>3 |///|   |///|   |///| K |///|   | 3
>>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>2 |   |///|   |///|   |///|   |///| 2
>>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>1 |///|   |///|   |///|   |///|   | 1
>>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>    a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
>>
>>8/5Bp1/4P3/6pP/1b1k1P2/5K2/8/8 w - - 0 1
>>
>>The key is Kg4
>>
>>Programs want to play fxg5, because this wins a pawn, prepares to get a passer,
>>etc.
>>
>>I haven't seen detailed analysis, but I assume that this draws, because black
>>gets back to h8 somehow, and then he can sacrifice his bishop for the e6 pawn
>>eventually, and white is left with the wrong rook pawn.
>>
>>Does anybody figure this position out?  If so, how did you do it?  Does it
>>require speculative knowledge that might lead to a sub-optimal result in other
>>cases?
>>
>>bruce
>
>Rebel 8, Rebel 9, and Rebel 10 are the only programs I know of that can find the
>key move in this position. Rebel 9, and Rebel 10 being the only ones that can
>find Kg4 in well under 10 min. and stick with.
>
>Here is what Rebel 10 thinks of the position.
>
>Kg4 found at ply 16 score 2.77
>Kg4 Be7 Kf5 g4 Kxg4 Ke4 Be8
>
>At ply 17, score now 3.20 same line of play.


to be sure this isn't "cooked" can you post the analysis where it decides
that the pawn capture leads to a draw?  Or what was the eval for the capture
vs Kg4 in the iteration where it changes???



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