Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 23:46:13 06/21/03
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On June 22, 2003 at 01:31:39, Stefan Pohl wrote: >Hi all! > >To end the discussion about my FRC-rankinglist (www.frc-list.beep.de) I want to >say this: > >1) I said on my homepage, that the used engines are not able to play real FRC, >because they dont know the FRC-castling-rules. OK !! >2) I never wanted to find the FRC-worldchampion. I only try to create the FIRST >and ONLY FRC-computer-rankinglist. But not because I want to sabotage FRC (what >a strange, paranoic idea...), but because of making FRC more popular! OK, I think it is an interesting experiment! >3) I use only 15 (of 960) possible FRC-positions, because of the >castling-problem (I said that on my homepage, too!), but the used positions are >FRC. The positions where you used is "only" a "part" of FRC. >4) The rankinglist is a real FRC-rankinglist, because the engines can castle in >that 15 positions (and they do!) and so the play REAL FRC. A real ranking list about a part of FRC. FRC is not "Only" 15 or 18 positions FRC = 960 postions with castling rules! >5) It is wrong to say, that my rankinglist with only 15 of 960 possible >positions is no real FRC! In computertournaments (normal chess) only a small >part of all possible openings and openingmoves are played. Nobody says: "Ooops, >no engine played aljechin's defense, that tournament is no real chess!" (another >strange idea...) Point1: Your ranking list is a part of possible FRC positions! It's not full FRC ... You can not say: I played an eng-eng tournament with E80-E99 positions and now I played the a tournament with the full informator moves. If you played with E80-E99 is this "only" a "part" ... Point2: Engines must know what are the casling rules and the GUI must know what is to do. You can not say "Full FRC" ... I like you point1 Stefan: --- >1) I said on my homepage, that the used engines are not able to play real FRC, >because they dont know the FRC-castling-rules. --- >6) When the opening-positions are FRC and all engines play the castles (as they >are defined in the FRC-rules) the tournament is FRC. So my tournament and my >rankinglist are FRC. And I will call it FRC-rankinglist now and forever... Deine Entscheidung aber nicht ganz korrekt: Korrekt wäre: Rankinglist of 15/960 FRC positions where are possible with GUI xyz and chess engines. FRC-Rankinglist is possible with: Arena GUI, TheBaron, Betsy and Chispa !! >7) And finally: Come on, its FRC, not a holy war! Hope so! Maybe more engines and GUIs are in the future compatible to FRC. I must thinking on WinBoard discuss for 5 years. The same art of discuss and today ... >Greetings - Stefan Pohl Best Frank
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