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Subject: Re: What is the value of a pawn on the 7th rank in centipawns ?

Author: Lieven Clarisse

Date: 13:23:37 06/22/03

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[D] 2kr1b1r/ppp1nppp/2n1pq2/3P4/8/2N1BB2/PPP2PPP/R2Q1RK1 w - - 0 11

depth=14 1/40(dxc6) +2.30 dxc6 Rxd1 cxb7+ Kb8 Raxd1 Nd5 Nxd5 exd5 Rxd5 Bb4 c3
Be7 Bd4 Qg6 Rd7
Nodes: 39238835 NPS: 223927
Time: 00:02:55.23


nice position, ruffian finds dxc6 in 0.00 on my PIII 450, little +score
and after a while, the score gets to +2.30 :-)



On June 21, 2003 at 14:03:14, Andrea Griffini wrote:

>Sorry for the funky topic... but i wonder how do strong program
>evaluate advanced pawns. I added a bonus table for free pawns
>and multiple free pawns that get up to 300 when they're on the
>7th rank, but this makes the program quite happy to sac pieces
>to get there. Sometimes it works (especially against humans in
>blitz games) but sometimes it doesn't. For example in
>
>>
>my program was happy to play dxc6 (score +2.3) in a 3 0 game
>against another computer even after analyzing just a few
>plys. So may be in this position really dxc6 is a winning
>move (really can't tell from my 1500 ELO rating :D... and
>the chess programs I have don't agree) but this is not
>the point. How do program face this problem ? Another
>similar case is
>
>8/7p/5k2/5p2/p1p2P2/Pr1pPK2/1P1R3P/8 b - - bm Rxb2; id "WAC.002"
>
>Rxb2 looks obviously quite interesting even for a 1500 player :)
>but how do program get to play it ? Do they really analyze all the
>pointless checks the king will undergo or they will just consider
>"positionally" that two pawns that far are well worth a rook in
>these conditions ?
>
>Andrea



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