Author: Uri Blass
Date: 15:00:12 06/22/03
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On June 22, 2003 at 13:10:06, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>On June 22, 2003 at 04:08:41, Tony Hedlund wrote:
>
>>[Event "SSDF"]
>>[Site "Tony Hedlund"]
>>[Date "2003.06.22"]
>>[Round "34"]
>>[White "Shredder 7.04 Classic A1200"]
>>[Black "Fritz 8 A1200"]
>>[BlackElo "2760"]
>>[ECO "B97"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>
>>1. e4 {book 0s} c5 {0s} 2. Nf3 {book 0s} d6 {0s (e6)} 3. d4
>>{book 0s} cxd4 {0s} 4. Nxd4 {book 0s} Nf6 {0s} 5. Nc3 {book
>>0s} a6 {0s (Nc6)} 6. Bg5 {book 0s} e6 {0s} 7. f4 {book 0s}
>>Qb6 {0s (Be7)} 8. Nb3 {book 0s} Be7 {0s} 9. Qf3 {book 0s}
>>Nbd7 {0s (Qc7)} 10. O-O-O {book 0s} Qc7 {0s} 11. Bd3 {book
>>0s} b5 {0s (h6)} 12. Rhe1 {book 0s} b4 {0s} 13. Ne2 {book
>>0s} Bb7 {0s} 14. g4 {book 0s} h6 {4:09m (Nc5)} 15. Bxf6
>>{book 0s} Bxf6 {2:06m} 16. Qh3 {-0.29/14 4:34m} g5 {15s}
>>17. Kb1 {-0.41/14 4:37m} gxf4 {4:27m (a5)} 18. Nxf4
>>{-0.16/12 22s} Be5 {9:01m} 19. Rf1 {-0.08/16 0s} a5 {8:06m
>>(O-O-O)} 20. Bb5 {0.00/15 7:16m} Bxe4 {5:08m} 21. Nd3
>>{0.00/15 7:00m} Bg7 {5:37m (Bxd3)} 22. Qe3 {-0.30/13 8:04m}
>>Bc6 {6:06m (Bg6)} 23. Bxc6 {+0.17/14 7:26m} Qxc6 {1:49m}
>>24. g5 {+0.01/15 10:41m} hxg5 {5:47m} 25. Qxg5 {-0.05/15
>>0s} Be5 {4:50m (Rh7)} 26. Nxe5 {+0.13/14 6:00m} Nxe5 {0s}
>>27. h4 {+0.20/16 6:20m} a4 {5:14m} 28. Nd4 {+0.42/16 0s}
>>Qc4 {8:25m} 29. Qf6 {+0.33/16 0s} Rf8 {4:43m} 30. Rfe1
>>{+0.07/15 1:17m} b3 {6:12m (Rc8)} 31. cxb3 {+0.23/13 1:38m}
>>axb3 {1:58m} 32. Nxb3 {+0.23/14 1:23m} Qa4 {4:52m (Qa6)}
>>33. Nc1 {+0.50/14 1:54m} Nd7 {8:10m (Rc8)} 34. Qg5
>>{+0.42/14 6:10m} Qa6 {0s (Ra6)} 35. h5 {+1.26/15 4:24m} Rh8
>>{9:06m (Qa5)} 36. h6 {+1.34/13 1:26m} Qa5 {5:46m} 37. Qf4
>>{+1.23/15 2:14m} e5 {3:03m (Ne5)} 38. Re2 {+1.35/14 7:45m}
>>Qa4 {4:03m (Ra6)} 39. Rd4 {+1.28/16 10:15m} Qc6 {0s}
>>40. Qg5 {+1.52/15 6:59m} Rh7 {45s (f6)} 41. Rc2 {+2.29/16
>>6:16m} Qb6 {0s (Qxc2+)} 42. Rdc4 {+4.30/14 1:40m} Qb8
>>{4:12m (Qd8)} 43. Qg8+ {+5.63/15 6:50m} Nf8 {2:44m} 44. Rc7
>>{+5.63/16 5:02m} Qd8 {0s} 45. Nd3 {+5.74/17 7:27m} Rb8
>>{3:56m} 46. Rc1 {+5.70/16 0s} Ra8 {3:12m} 47. Nb4 {+5.77/16
>>3:57m} Qf6 {1:26m} 48. Rc8+ {+5.84/13 0s} Rxc8 {2:47m}
>>49. Rxc8+ {+5.93/15 0s} Kd7 {7:04m} 50. Qxf8 {+6.18/15 0s}
>>Ke6 {5:22m (Qf5+)} 51. Qxd6+ {+8.11/13 4:36m} Kxd6 {2:59m}
>>52. Rc6+ {+9.58/20 1:48m} Kd7 {1:09m} 53. Rxf6 {+9.71/20
>>3:39m} Rh8 {2:57m (e4)} 54. a4 {+9.71/16 2:54m} 1-0
>>
>>[Event "SSDF"]
>>[Site "Tony Hedlund"]
>>[Date "2003.06.22"]
>>[Round "35"]
>>[White "Fritz 8 A1200"]
>>[Black "Shredder 7.04 Classic A1200"]
>>[WhiteElo "2760"]
>>[ECO "D85"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>
>>1. d4 {0s} Nf6 {book 0s} 2. c4 {0s} g6 {book 0s} 3. Nc3
>>{0s} Bg7 {book 0s} 4. Nf3 {0s (e4)} d5 {book 0s} 5. cxd5
>>{0s (Qb3)} Nxd5 {book 0s} 6. e4 {0s} Nxc3 {book 0s} 7. bxc3
>>{0s} c5 {book 0s} 8. Rb1 {0s} O-O {book 0s} 9. Be2 {0s} Nc6
>>{book 0s} 10. d5 {0s} Ne5 {book 0s} 11. Nxe5 {0s} Bxe5
>>{book 0s} 12. Qd2 {0s} b6 {book 0s} 13. f4 {0s} Bg7 {book
>>0s} 14. O-O {0s} e6 {book 0s} 15. dxe6 {0s} fxe6 {book 0s}
>>16. Qe3 {0s} Bb7 {book 0s} 17. Bc4 {0s} Kh8 {+0.18/15
>>5:40m} 18. Bxe6 {6:32m} Qf6 {+0.13/16 1:23m} 19. Bh3 {4:29m
>>(Bb3)} Qxc3 {+0.78/14 1:44m} 20. e5 {6:35m} Qc4 {+0.92/15
>>0s} 21. Rb3 {5:39m (Ra1)} Rad8 {+0.86/13 4:56m} 22. Qc3 {0s
>>(Ra3)} Qe2 {+1.43/14 6:48m} 23. Qe3 {16:27m (Rb2)} Qxa2
>>{+1.68/16 9:16m} 24. Ra3 {0s} Qc2 {+1.68/16 6:47m} 25. Rxa7
>>{6:01m} Bc6 {+1.68/16 0s} 26. Rc7 {10:18m} Bb5 {+1.58/16
>>0s} 27. Re1 {10:08m} Rd1 {+1.50/17 13s} 28. Rc8 {3:26m}
>>Rxc8 {+1.58/15 5:42m} 29. Bxc8 {0s} Bc6 {+1.56/16 7:29m}
>>30. Bh3 {10:11m} c4 {+1.99/16 5:37m} 31. Rxd1 {5:58m} Qxd1+
>>{+1.94/17 0s} 32. Kf2 {3:43m} Bf8 {+1.99/17 4:16m} 33. Qc3
>>{5:35m} b5 {+1.80/16 1:23m} 34. Be3 {5:58m} Be7 {+1.90/16
>>2:55m} 35. Bd4 {3:35m} Kg8 {+1.77/15 9:21m} 36. Qe3 {0s}
>>Bd5 {+1.89/15 7:11m} 37. e6 {0s} Qc2+ {+1.88/15 7:02m}
>>38. Qe2 {0s (Kg1)} Qxe2+ {+1.87/17 5:09m} 39. Kxe2 {0s} b4
>>{+2.11/18 1:41m} 40. Kd2 {1:58m (Kd1)} Kf8 {+2.75/19
>>12:52m} 41. Kc1 {0s (Bg4)} c3 {+2.84/19 4:04m} 42. g3
>>{2:57m (Kc2)} Be4 {+2.96/20 4:41m} 43. Bg4 {0s (Bf1)} Bd6
>>{+2.96/20 4:14m} 44. Bd1 {5:34m (Be2)} Ke7 {+2.96/21 4:53m}
>>45. Bb3 {55s} Bf5 {+2.93/21 1:05m} 46. Bb6 {6:07m (h4)}
>>Bxe6 {+3.93/20 47s} 47. Kc2 {5:28m} Bxb3+ {+4.05/23 1s}
>>48. Kxb3 {3:12m} Ke6 {+3.98/21 0s} 49. Bd8 {3:57m (Bd4)}
>>Kf5 {+4.41/20 3:58m} 50. Kc2 {0s (Bb6)} Kg4 {+4.56/20
>>6:16m} 51. Bf6 {0s} Bf8 {+4.57/19 3:35m} 52. Bd8 {3:27m
>>(Be5)} Kh3 {+4.75/20 5:41m} 53. Kd3 {12:43m} Kxh2 {+5.31/21
>>1s} 54. g4 {6:37m} Kg3 {+5.55/20 45s} 55. f5 {6:01m} gxf5
>>{+5.79/19 17s} 56. gxf5 {3:38m} Bd6 {+6.03/19 2:03m}
>>57. Kc2 {6:13m (f6)} Kf4 {+6.42/18 5:25m} 58. f6 {2s} Ke5
>>{+6.83/18 4:23m} 59. Bb6 {15:24m (f7)} Kxf6 {+9.43/18
>>5:25m} 60. Bd4+ {4s (Kb3)} Kf5 {+14.99/18 3:31m} 61. Bf2
>>{3:36m (Kb3)} h5 {+20.47/18 4:48m} 62. Kb3 {6s} Kg4
>>{+31.59/18 5:55m} 0-1
>>
>>Tony
>
>Very interesting Tony. Thanks. I am always curious about these matches with
>Fritz8/Shreddar7.04. Since I am mostly into coorespondence chess and own these
>programs, Chess Tiger 14 & many more. In my experience with S7/F8 shreddar is
>not competative and seldom do I find S7 lines hold up to F8 in deep analysis.
>To me it is interesting that Crafty19.03, Ruffian and perhaps on rare occasion
>Tiger14 will find equal or better lines.
>Programmers How can this be. I have enough experience with deep analysis to have
>faith in what I say.
>Wayne
I think that shredder is a root processor and it's evaluation is dependent on
the root position so by definition it does not fit to Deep position analysis.
Uri
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