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Subject: Re: position

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 01:24:36 06/23/03

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On June 23, 2003 at 03:47:30, Will Singleton wrote:

>[D]2r1r1k1/5p2/5qp1/1p1P4/2p2B2/5R1P/1b1Q1PK1/3R4 w - - 0 32
>
>White has a nice equalizing move.
>
>[Event "ICC 45 10"]
>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>[Date "2003.06.23"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "Amateur"]
>[Black "PostModernist"]
>[Result "*"]
>[WhiteElo "2428"]
>[BlackElo "2424"]
>[Opening "QGA: classical, Rubinstein variation"]
>[ECO "D27"]
>[NIC "QG.07"]
>[Time "02:05:49"]
>[TimeControl "2700+10"]
>
>1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e3 a6 5. Bxc4 e6 6. O-O c5 7. a4 Nc6 8.
>Qe2 Be7 9. Nc3 Qc7 10. Rd1 O-O 11. h3 Rd8 12. d5 exd5 13. Bxd5 Nb4 14. e4
>Nfxd5 15. Nxd5 Nxd5 16. exd5 Bf5 17. Ra3 Bd6 18. Re3 c4 19. Ne5 Rac8 20. Rf3
>g6 21. g4 Bxe5 22. gxf5 Qd6 23. fxg6 hxg6 24. Bh6 Bh8 25. Re3 Bf6 26. Rf3
>Re8 27. Qc2 Be5 28. Qd2 b5 29. axb5 axb5 30. Bf4 Qf6 31. Kg2 Bxb2 32. Bg5
>Qe5 33. d6 c3 34. Qd5 Qxd5 35. Rxd5 Red8 36. d7 Ra8 37. Rf6 c2 38. Rc6 c1=Q
>39. Bxc1 Bxc1 40. Rxc1 Kg7 41. Rc7 Rab8 42. Rdc5 Rb6 43. Rd5 Kf6 44. Rc8 Ke7
>45. Rcc5 b4 46. Rb5 Rxb5 47. Rxb5 Rxd7 48. Rxb4 Kf6 49. Kg3 Rd5 50. Rb7 Rg5+
>51. Kf4 Rh5 52. Kg4 Rg5+ 53. Kf4 Rf5+ 54. Kg3 Ra5 55. h4 Re5 56. Kg4 Kg7 57.
>f3 Ra5 58. Kf4 Rf5+ 59. Kg3 Rc5 60. Kf4


     The situation looks not at all clear to me. White
     has two possibilities
     a) 32.Bg5 Qe5 33.Bf6
     b) 32.Bg5 Qe5 33.d6
     c) 32.d6
     an I am not sure what is best. There is also a
     difference in meaning between some chess programs
     as you can see from the analysis below.
     Kurt

New game
2r1r1k1/5p2/5qp1/1p1P4/2p2B2/5R1P/1b1Q1PK1/3R4 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 8:

32.d6 c3 33.Qc2 Rc4 34.d7
  -+  (-1.84)   Depth: 3   00:00:00  2kN
  -+  (-1.84)   Depth: 3   00:00:00  2kN
32.Bg5 Qe5 33.d6 c3 34.Qd5 Qxd5 35.Rxd5 Red8 36.d7 Ra8 37.Bf6 b4 38.Bxd8 Rxd8
39.Re3 c2
  µ  (-1.31)   Depth: 3   00:00:00  4kN
  ±  (0.96)   Depth: 16   00:01:33  83902kN
32.d6 Rcd8 33.Bg5 Qe5 34.Bxd8 Rxd8 35.Re3 Qg5+ 36.Kf1 Be5 37.d7 c3 38.Qe2 Bh2
39.Re8+ Kh7 40.Qa2 Kg7 41.Rd5
  ±  (1.06)   Depth: 16   00:02:50  160242kN
  ±  (1.33)   Depth: 17   00:06:14  357673kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 23.06.2003)


New game
2r1r1k1/5p2/5qp1/1p1P4/2p2B2/5R1P/1b1Q1PK1/3R4 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Little Goliath 2000 v3.9:

32.Bg5 Qh8 33.Rb1 c3 34.Qf4 f5
  -+  (-1.81)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:00  56kN
32.Qb4 c3 33.Qxb5 c2 34.Rg1 Re4
  -+  (-1.73)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  75kN
32.Bg3 Qg7
  -+  (-1.52)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  83kN
  -+  (-1.74)   Depth: 9/27   00:00:01  1035kN
32.Qb4 Be5 33.Bxe5 Qxe5 34.Qxb5 c3 35.h4 Red8 36.Qb7 Rc7 37.Qb6
  -+  (-1.58)   Depth: 9/27   00:00:01  1395kN
  -+  (-1.60)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:04  4558kN
32.Bg5 Qe5 33.d6 c3 34.Qd5 Qxd5 35.Rxd5 Red8 36.d7 Ra8 37.Bxd8 Rxd8 38.Rc5 b4
39.Rf4
  µ  (-1.39)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:04  4927kN
  ³  (-0.62)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:10  11615kN
32.d6 c3 33.Qd5 c2
  ³  (-0.46)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:17  20309kN
  µ  (-0.80)   Depth: 13/42   00:01:46  160137kN
32.Bg5 Qe5 33.d6 Rcd8 34.d7 Rxd7 35.Qxd7 Qxg5+ 36.Rg3 Qe5 37.Re3 Qg5+ 38.Rg3 Qe5
39.Re3
  ³  (-0.64)   Depth: 13/42   00:01:49  165062kN
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14/43   00:03:07  286947kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 23.06.2003)



New game
2r1r1k1/5p2/5qp1/1p1P4/2p2B2/5R1P/1b1Q1PK1/3R4 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Ruffian 1.0.5:

32.Qb4 Be5 33.Bxe5 Qxe5 34.Qxb5 c3
  -+  (-1.64)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
  -+  (-1.46)   Depth: 5/13   00:00:00
32.Bg3 Qg7 33.Bd6 Rcd8 34.Qb4 Re2
  µ  (-1.17)   Depth: 5/13   00:00:00
  -+  (-2.00)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:00  85kN
32.Qb4 Be5 33.Bxe5 Qxe5 34.Qxb5 Qe2 35.Ra1 Rb8
  -+  (-1.42)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  159kN
  -+  (-1.46)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  328kN
32.Bc7 Qa6 33.Qf4 Re7 34.Bd6 Rd7 35.Be5 Bxe5 36.Qxe5
  -+  (-1.42)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  512kN
32.d6 c3 33.Qc2 Rc5 34.Bc1 Qe5 35.Re3 Qg5+ 36.Kh1 Ree5
  µ  (-1.37)   Depth: 7/17   00:00:01  794kN
  µ  (-1.27)   Depth: 9/21   00:00:04  3075kN
32.Bc7 Bc3 33.Qh6 Qe7 34.d6 Qd7 35.Rxc3 Rxc7 36.dxc7 Qxd1
  µ  (-1.21)   Depth: 9/21   00:00:06  4113kN
32.Bg5 Qe5 33.d6 c3 34.Qd5 Qxd5 35.Rxd5 Red8 36.d7 Rb8 37.Bf6 b4 38.Re3 Bc1
39.Re4 b3 40.Bxc3
  µ  (-0.99)   Depth: 9/21   00:00:07  5022kN
  =  (-0.18)   Depth: 14/32   00:01:54  82685kN
32.d6 c3 33.Qc2 Red8 34.d7 Ra8 35.Bc7 Qc6 36.Rd6 Qxc7 37.Rxg6+ fxg6 38.Qxg6+ Kh8
39.Qf6+ Kg8 40.Qf7+ Kh8 41.Qf6+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14/32   00:04:18  183187kN
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14/32   00:04:18  183187kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 23.06.2003)


New game
2r1r1k1/5p2/5qp1/1p1P4/2p2B2/5R1P/1b1Q1PK1/3R4 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 7.04:

32.Be5 Qxe5
  -+  (-7.82)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
  -+  (-5.51)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
32.Qc2 b4
  -+  (-3.62)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
  -+  (-3.71)   Depth: 2/3   00:00:00
32.Bc7 c3 33.Qd3 Qh4 34.Rf4
  -+  (-3.70)   Depth: 2/3   00:00:00
  -+  (-2.73)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
32.Bh6 Qh8 33.Qf4 f6 34.Rg3
  -+  (-2.72)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
  -+  (-2.63)   Depth: 5/11   00:00:00
32.Bg5 Qe5 33.Bf6 Qxf6 34.Rxf6 Bxf6 35.Qa5 Rb8 36.Rb1 Bd8 37.Qa6 Rb6 38.Qc8 Kg7
39.d6 Rxd6 40.Rxb5
  -+  (-2.62)   Depth: 5/11   00:00:00
  =  (0.24)   Depth: 15/35   00:03:32  55010kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 23.06.2003)





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