Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 23:45:49 06/23/03
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On June 24, 2003 at 02:16:18, Fermin Serrano wrote: >That is the line of the game: 11.Qa4, Nd7 12.Nc7+! Rxc7 13.Bxa6 which is winning >line. Wrong, this is not a winning line. Forget this Testposition. The position is probably equal after 12.Nc7+. Michael > >Maybe those engines did see 12.Nc7+! > > >On June 23, 2003 at 20:23:46, Peter Stayne wrote: > >>Not sure that that is the correct move? >> >>Most engines I've run say that after Nb5 Qa4 Nd7, the knight has to retreat >>back. >> >>Deep Fritz 7 on my Dual Xeon 3.06 >> >>New game >>r2qkb1r/1b3ppp/ppn1pn2/3p4/3P1B2/P1N1PN2/1P3PPP/2RQKB1R w Kkq - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Deep Fritz 7: >> >>1.Bd3 Bd6 2.Bxd6 Qxd6 3.Qb3 Ne7 4.Ne5 0-0 5.0-0 Rac8 >> ² (0.59) Depth: 9/25 00:00:00 823kN >>1.Bd3 Bd6 2.Bxd6 Qxd6 3.Na4 Ne7 4.0-0 Rc8 5.Qb3 >> ² (0.53) Depth: 10/25 00:00:00 1321kN >>1.Bd3 Bd6 2.Bxd6 Qxd6 3.0-0 0-0 4.Nd2 Rac8 5.Qf3 Ne7 6.Rfe1 Rfe8 >> ² (0.47) Depth: 11/30 00:00:01 3177kN >>1.Bd3 Bd6 2.Bxd6 Qxd6 3.0-0 0-0 4.Nd2 Rac8 5.Qf3 Ne7 6.Rfe1 Rfe8 7.b4 >> ² (0.47) Depth: 12/30 00:00:03 8424kN >>1.Bd3 Bd6 2.Bxd6 Qxd6 3.0-0 0-0 4.Nd2 Rac8 5.Qf3 e5 6.Bf5 e4 7.Qh3 Rc7 >> ² (0.44) Depth: 13/32 00:00:14 32062kN >>1.Ne5! >> ² (0.47) Depth: 13/32 00:00:17 40488kN >>1.Ne5 Nxe5 2.Bxe5 b5 3.Bd3 Rc8 4.0-0 Ne4 5.Ne2 Rxc1 6.Qxc1 f6 7.Bc7 Qd7 8.f3 Bd6 >> ² (0.44) Depth: 14/36 00:00:36 82754kN >>1.Bd3! >> ² (0.47) Depth: 14/36 00:00:41 94778kN >>1.Bd3 Bd6 2.Bxd6 Qxd6 3.0-0 0-0 4.Re1 Rfc8 5.Qe2 b5 6.Nd2 Na5 7.Rc2 Nc4 8.Rec1 >> ² (0.44) Depth: 15/39 00:01:51 258590kN >>1.Bd3 Bd6 2.Bxd6 Qxd6 3.0-0 0-0 4.Re1 Rfc8 5.Qe2 Re8 6.Na4 Na5 7.Ne5 Nc4 >> ² (0.47) Depth: 16/38 00:06:01 851579kN >> >>(Stayne, Home 23.06.2003) >> >> >>Shredder 7.04 >> >>New game >>r2qkb1r/1b3ppp/ppn1pn2/3p4/3P1B2/P1N1PN2/1P3PPP/2RQKB1R w Kkq - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Shredder 7.04: >> >>1.Bd3 >> ± (1.01) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Bd6 2.0-0 Bxf4 3.exf4 >> ± (1.14) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Bd6 2.0-0 Bxf4 3.exf4 >> ± (1.14) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Bd6 2.0-0 Bxf4 3.exf4 >> ± (1.14) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Bd6 2.0-0 Bxf4 3.exf4 >> ± (1.14) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Be7 2.Ne5 Nxe5 3.dxe5 >> ± (0.88) Depth: 4/7 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Be7 2.Ne5 Nxe5 3.dxe5 >> ± (0.88) Depth: 4/7 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 >> ² (0.60) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 >> ² (0.60) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 >> ² (0.60) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 >> ² (0.60) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 >> ² (0.60) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 >>1.Bd3 Bb4 2.axb4 Nxd4 >> ² (0.61) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.b4 >> ± (0.80) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.b4 >> ± (0.71) Depth: 5/8 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Nxd4 2.Qxd4 Qb8 3.Bxb8 >> ± (0.72) Depth: 5/8 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Qd3 >> ± (0.74) Depth: 5/8 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Qd3 Rc8 >> ± (0.73) Depth: 6/13 00:00:00 >>1.Be2 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Qd3 Rc8 4.h3 >> ² (0.62) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 61kN >>1.Be2 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Qd3 Nh5 4.Bg3 Rc8 5.Be5 Nxe5 6.dxe5 >> ² (0.69) Depth: 8/18 00:00:01 241kN >>1.Be2 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Qd3 Nh5 4.Bg3 Rc8 5.Be5 Nxe5 6.dxe5 >> ² (0.49) Depth: 9/16 00:00:01 341kN >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.b4 Nxb4 4.axb4 Qb8 5.Bxb8 >> ² (0.50) Depth: 9/16 00:00:01 396kN >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Qe2 Qd7 4.Bg3 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 9/19 00:00:01 526kN >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Ne5 Nxe5 4.dxe5 Ne4 5.Qh5 Rc8 6.Nxe4 dxe4 >> ² (0.61) Depth: 10/23 00:00:01 815kN >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Ne5 Nxe5 4.Bxe5 Bd6 5.Qc2 h6 6.Bxf6 Qxf6 7.Bh7+ Kh8 >> ² (0.55) Depth: 11/24 00:00:02 1734kN >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.b4 Rc8 4.Qb3 Bd6 5.Bxd6 Qxd6 6.Na4 Ne7 7.Ne5 >> ² (0.55) Depth: 12/28 00:00:05 3932kN >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Ne5 Nxe5 4.Bxe5 Nd7 5.Bg3 f5 6.Ne2 Rc8 7.Rxc8 Qxc8 8.Nf4 >> ² (0.61) Depth: 13/26 00:00:14 11250kN >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Ne5 Nxe5 4.dxe5 Nd7 5.Qg4 g6 6.b4 a5 7.Bg3 axb4 8.axb4 >> ² (0.55) Depth: 14/28 00:00:23 19062kN >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Ne5 Nxe5 4.dxe5 Nd7 5.Qg4 g6 6.Be2 Qb8 7.Qg3 Rc8 8.b4 >> ² (0.53) Depth: 15/32 00:00:46 37972kN >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 0-0 3.Ne5 Rc8 4.Qf3 Nxe5 5.Bxe5 Nd7 6.Bf4 Nf6 7.Rc2 b5 8.Rfc1 >>Rxc3 9.Rxc3 Bxa3 >> ² (0.50) Depth: 16/34 00:02:12 107053kN >>1.Bd3 Be7 2.0-0 Nh5 3.Bg3 0-0 4.Ne5 Nxg3 5.Nxc6 Bxc6 6.hxg3 Kh8 7.b4 Ra7 8.Qh5 >> ² (0.57) Depth: 17/36 00:05:28 262680kN >> >>(Stayne, Home 23.06.2003) >> >> >>Deep Fritz 7 after 10.Nb5!? >> >>New game >>r2qkb1r/1b3ppp/ppn1pn2/1N1p4/3P1B2/P3PN2/1P3PPP/2RQKB1R b Kkq - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Deep Fritz 7: >> >>1...Rc8 2.Nc3 Be7 3.Be2 0-0 4.0-0 Bd6 5.Bxd6 Qxd6 6.Qd3 >> = (0.19) Depth: 9/24 00:00:00 821kN >>1...Rc8 2.Nc3 Na5 3.Bd3 Nc4 4.Qa4+ Qd7 5.Qb3 Bd6 6.Bxd6 Qxd6 >> = (0.19) Depth: 10/27 00:00:00 1757kN >>1...Rc8 2.Nc3 Na5 3.Bd3 Nc4 4.Qa4+ Bc6 5.Qb3 Nh5 6.Bg5 f6 7.Bh4 >> = (0.19) Depth: 11/32 00:00:02 6637kN >>1...Rc8 2.Qa4 Nd7 3.Nc3 b5 4.Qd1 f6 5.Bd3 e5 6.dxe5 fxe5 7.Bg5 Be7 >> ² (0.44) Depth: 12/37 00:00:07 18279kN >>1...Rc8 2.Qa4 Nd7 3.Nc3 b5 4.Qd1 f6 5.Bd3 e5 6.dxe5 fxe5 7.Bg5 Be7 8.Bxe7 Nxe7 >> ² (0.37) Depth: 13/34 00:00:13 34277kN >>1...Rc8 2.Qa4 Nd7 3.Nc3 b5 4.Qb3 Na5 5.Qc2 Nf6 6.Bd3 Ne4 7.Bxe4 dxe4 8.Ng5 Nc4 >>9.Ngxe4 >> ² (0.41) Depth: 14/41 00:00:30 76179kN >>1...Rc8 2.Qa4 Nd7 3.Nc3 Na5 4.Bd3 Nc4 5.Qb3 Nf6 6.0-0 Bd6 7.Bxd6 Qxd6 8.Rc2 0-0 >>9.Rfc1 >> ² (0.31) Depth: 15/40 00:01:17 195314kN >>1...Rc8 2.Qa4 Nd7 3.Nc3 Na5 4.Bd3 Nc4 5.Qb3 Nf6 6.0-0 Bd6 7.Bxd6 Qxd6 8.Qa4+ b5 >>9.Qb3 0-0 >> ² (0.34) Depth: 16/49 00:03:00 457504kN >> >>(Stayne, Home 23.06.2003)
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