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Subject: Re: Hmm . . . is Junior5 not good enough??

Author: Komputer Korner

Date: 20:52:43 10/22/98

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On October 21, 1998 at 07:28:33, Amir Ban wrote:

>On October 20, 1998 at 16:34:52, Komputer Korner wrote:
>
>>On October 20, 1998 at 05:44:47, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>On October 19, 1998 at 23:31:18, Komputer Korner wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>If this is the case you would have to accept that each program's clock counts as
>>>>the official time, the same as the Hergott-Hiarcs match. Does the SSDF do this?
>>>>--
>>>
>>>Yes. The programs count time for themselves.
>>>
>>>During the height of the autoplayer cheating debate, when some people tried to
>>>think up complicated auto232 tricks leading to marginal and obscure advantages,
>>>I pointed out that the simplest way to cheat is to lie about your clock, and
>>>this doesn't even involve the autoplayer.
>>>
>>>Amir
>>
>>This possible huge clock time hole for potential cheating, together with the
>>draw controversy and the abrupt game terminations are the time bombs of SSDF
>>integrity. These along with SSDF's refusal to disallow secret autoplayers may
>>ultimately bring the SSDF down.
>>--
>
>I was aiming at an opposite conclusion. I don't think any cheating took place
>this way or any other way. I was pointing out that those who said cheating took
>place were thinking up scenarios that were unnecessarily complicated, when
>cheating has always been possible through very elementary means.
>
>Whether this reflects on SSDF integrity I don't know. I think they based their
>reputation on their methodology, not on guarding against fraud, something which
>they probably did not even think about until recently.
>
>Remember also that the real news this year is not that programs started to cheat
>(unproven and almost certainly false), but that people started saying they do.
>
>Amir


Remember I am not the one who is accusing anyone of cheating. I am only saying
that the potential is there.
--
Komputer Korner



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