Author: Volker Pittlik
Date: 11:06:17 06/24/03
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On June 24, 2003 at 05:53:01, Franz Hagra wrote: ... >In einer freien Gesellschaft (in diesem Fall Forum) sollte man auch Kritik >ertragen können, auch wenn diese manchmal etwas zu hart formuliert oder gar >unfair sein sollte - aber sie keinen Verstoß gegen Gesetze und die Menschenwürde >enthält, sollte man sie akzeptieren. > ... The major problem in message boards of any kind (web forums, usenet, mailinglists) is not that some of them are moderated or that some messages are deleted or not published. The major problem is a group of maybe a dozen of selfcentered egomaniacs who disturb and destroy every normal communication. All of them are so convinced from their own point of view that they are absolutely unable to tolerate any other opinion. And those who have different opinions are treated by them as enemies. That is what they all have in common, the form how they express it is different. There are: - The testers who found a bug in a chess program and post it to a forum. The problem occurs when they do it (same bug) again and again and again and again and again and again and again... so often until they get banned. After that they complain about the violation of human rights. - Those who know *exactly* the one and only method how to test a program (the way they do it). Everyone who test in a different way is declared as to stupid to get things correctly. - Hobby brain scientists, wannabe psychologist and backyard philosophers who get vulgar if you disagree with them. - Pricesses who become "provoked" by you if they don't like your opinion. - Conspiracy theorist of all kind who found out that <insert-company-here> is going to dominate the entire world or that <insert-someone-you-don't-like> is supporting <insert-crime-here>. - Propagandists who found out that (mark your choice) [ ] <insert-something here> variant of chess [ ] <insert-something here> forum, website, ... [ ] <someone they (don't) like> [ ] is the solution of all problems of the entire world [ ] is a major pain in the ass and share their recovery with us in every of their postings. - Not to forget those who are simply crazy and threat others with (box) fights or going so far in their conspiracy bullshit that their forum get closed by their provider and they still don't recognize that they've spead antisemitic crap. I read the CSS forum daily and what I'm really wondering is: why didn't I ever notice the "censorship" over there? And what does censorship mean? Basically it is a violation of the human right to express the disagreement of individuals with the leaders of the state they're living in. Freedom of speach is a right of citizens against their state, not against individuals or companies. It does not mean someone is allowed to be a guest in my house and call me an asshole. It also does not mean an employee is allowed to call the products of his employer pieces of shit. Of course everyone is allowed to think that or to say that, but if they do it in my house or at their company they have to expect legally consequences. Someone has been banned at the CSS Forum. That one wrote *in this forum* that CSS is supporting receiving of stolen goods. If you where them what would you do? Regards Volker Pittlik
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