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Subject: Re: Test - failed - Felicitations

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 01:54:26 06/25/03

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On June 25, 2003 at 03:50:48, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>I am impressed by that article. Thanks, Harald! Still something to consider.
>You've understood that CSS people are inconsistent, faking supporting
>personalities, discriminating useful critics, deleting intriguing messages where
>weaknesses of products are shown - - and many more evil behaviour - BUT, as a
>next step, you now must realise that this behaviour is a mirror of the CSS
>staff's smartness or the lack of. What you must understand is that the behaviour
>as such in defense of a company (ChessBase) or its products or of a newsgroup -
>is a universally used behaviour. And this is more so when at the base many
>people want to feed their families with the company's income. I assure you that
>you would behave the same. More, I am not sure if you would do your job with
>such smartness and irony as Fred Friedel. But look, he must live with the people
>of the staff. He cannot change the team on a weekly base. Since you have a
>webpage on your own and since you've done a lot of testings - you know that over
>half of the time it is boring to the bones. Now to fulfill your job under such
>boring conditions -- you need people with the appropriate characters. So, under
>that aspect certain figures, which look so odd and boring, are exactly the right
>ones for such a job. In short, you cannot lead such a company or journal with
>people who change their opinions on a daily base or who have a temper like a
>quicksilver circus, no, you need someone like DS.
>Someone, yes, I agree with you, who is only satisfied when he finally knows your
>identity. What do you think how much fun I had when I discussed with him as
>"Sonja" and he was totally confused because I knew so much, he couldn't find a
>cupboard to fill me in. Know what I mean? If you are smart, you dont have to
>fear all kind of ghosts and spooky conspirators. But if you have to lead an
>institution like the CSS or a company like ChessBase, you forcedly need also
>people like DS! So the smart Friedel needs the hard working DS. Friedel can
>enjoy freedom of speech but DS must delete messages to protect the institution.
>This is reality, Harald! And it's not inconsistent. The whole policy is working
>like this. You must have different characters for different tasks. Of course the
>absolute hype is when a single man invents the necessary roles and initiates a
>whole empire of contradicting streamings. That is what we can observe in the
>internet every day. Just in your neighborhood you have a great talent for such
>games... :)
>
>What I wanted to say is that you should reconsider your premature verdict and
>decision. I think you should well cooperate in CSS forum with your usual stuff
>inspite your new knowledge how reality functions. I assure you that you would do
>the same if you had to secure such an "empire". So dont be too harsh with Helmut
>Conrady. He's just making his first steps like you yourself.
>
>Rolf


Thanks for your kind words, Rolf.
Some final words:

- Helmut is only one executive, behind is DS as you already stated. So I am not
too much disappointed. Helmut might suffer from a restricted view.

- I should cooperate with CSS board again in spite of all the injustice I know
of? You must be joking. Even I have something called pride and a sense for
justice. As I already wrote, going there again means accepting their behaviour.
That is what I cannot do with a clear conscience. Not now. Maybe later when
staff and censorship and behaviour changes.

- Besides that there is not much I could or want to write there. 95-99% of the
postings are with no significant content one reminds one week later. The past
has shown that the more sophisticated a posting is the less answers you get. The
more you write about chess, games, analyzing games with engines etc. the less
answers. So what shall I do there? Post my results? In the meantime I don't
think I need to beg for being allowed again to post there, my contribution would
only be my test results. I don't think that many readers don't get the
information when I do not post in CSS board.

- Even if having to live from this business, a proper and appropriate
acquaintance is still possible.

- In the moment CSS is in a dilemma. The best thing they could do is to admit
that they might have deleted/censored a bit too sharp and apologize. But in
their eyes this is a sign for weakness and mistakes. Impossible for them to
show. They are strong and don't make any mistakes. That is the dilemma. Another
one is their relation to Chessbase and Steinwender shop. Of course they will not
confirm those relations. But denying is lying so they keep their mouth shut. But
I think the situation is clear now and I am sure many readers at least
reconsider what is/was going on in CSS board. Personally that is all I wanted to
achieve. No personal insults, only inform the CSS board members/readers what
they might have missed due to very fast deletions by CSS board staff.

- So now for me this discussion is finished, no need to say more, eveything is
said IMO.

Have a nice day, and I hope that at least ONE guy beside me will take a look at
my Junior 8 test games with tournament time control and comment one or more of
them in a board. To be honest I don't think this will happen, 99.9% only consume
results.




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