Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 11:24:49 06/25/03
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On June 25, 2003 at 13:46:10, CLiebert wrote: >It was a good experiment that you didn't know so I could find out >>how discrimination works with you and Thomas Mayer in tow. > >Betweem TM and me anything is clear. Its not ok to use such things for your >purposes again and again. I am remembering the discussions between thomas and >schachfan very well and its funny that you try to use him for you intensions... Christian, first of all, let's find a solution for Eduard. Nothing else is in my interest. For all I have NO personal intersts in respect of re-entering CSS forum. to be clear about it. So please read the message here andplease remove my name from your webpage totally. Or praise me for my engagement for Eduard - I called CSS team to task because of Eduard, not myself. Further: I was NOT the one who started the debate about Menschenwürde. That was FQ!! Look in his FCP. At that time I was NOT in the debate at all. So it is no good if you take me for the leader of that debate. I am just supporting Eduard. But in detail: Your description of the little war between Mayer/you and me is false. Objectively false! The start was that Mayer cheated the text of one of my messages and quoted it as if it camefrom my side! That was evil. Icomplained to the staff and you answered that you had no idea what I meant although I had given exact quotes. Mayer then declared that he had an extremely good relation to you. So I followed that therefore you defended him although he had done something extremely wrong! That is the whole affair. I then called Steinwender and I admit I went too far in my excitement. I made the mistake that I threatened with justice if the thread and Mayer's message would NOT be deleted. That was false because then Steinwender could do as if I had done something wrong. But that was a bad trick. Of course you two should have deleted Mayer's message. And I should have stayed relaxed. Then I would have had a better stand. But so Steinwender could try to delete me resp. throw me out. You know what I mean. Please rethink it after so many years. It is the same what Eduard did in his sorrow, we both went too far then. But look we both weere rightin our concern. Eduard'sname had been cheated and my message had been cheated. Couldn't you admit today that we both have been treated unfair and with notsomuch decency? That was my argument. And I wished for poor Ed that he could re-enter but then directly as Stammposter with the protective colour. Please try to discuss it in your team! And when this is done we should end the debate about human decency and you should forget the topic on your webpage. I think it is NOT to the advantage of CSS! I think we agree. >Trying to proof st. is an normal matter. It is also quite normal to say that sb >isn´t guilty if the facts aren´t convincing at the end. I dont understand you here what you mean. You mean that Mayer did NOT cheat my message? > > >- To insinuate sort >of group here and to mix me up with people like Czub is >really insultive. As to your few semesters of psychology I can only say that you >couldn't make your examinations and therefore this is all hot air. I could also >claim one semester of egyptiology but I would never be so stupid and claim that >I were an expert. > >>I never claimed beeing an psycho-expert, Gott bewahre, but you´re clainming me of claiming this ;-) But sometimes you do not need more than "gesunden Menschenverstand" to realize someones intensions. All true but you are wrong that I entered that point into the debate. I reacted on your mentioning that you knew why I was wrong and you gave the proof that you also had studied a few semesters psychology. My point was that this wasn't enough to prove me wrong. But Christian, please let's not make a war about it, ok? It was a bit fun indeed. > > >I ask you to please remove me from your webpage. I do not belong to such a >"group" > > >> Ok. There is no word about a group anymore. But you are still claiming css of insulting human rights, aren´t you?! :-)) Christian, if you enter Eduard again, the topic is finished for me! Please remove me there. It is highly unfair to use me as scapegoat. It was FQ who said Menschen würde NOT me. > > >>and I am serious in my defense of Eduard. You can ask him occasionally if I >>change sides deliberately like so many others. I was always honest in his >>defense. Please read my article against the psychiatric allegations against him >>on my webpage. Nobody defended him like that. Also you, although you speak to >>him with so much chalk in your throat (als wenn du Kreide gefressen hättest), >>insinuated that Eduard were extremely sensitive ad unnormal. I can only tell you >that this is false. >>Rolf > > >I will discuss this issue with the team, ok. Plese do it and believe my word! I dont know him in private but what I read here in many groups does NOT justify to call him mad or gaga. Please give him the benefit of human decency. Thanks. Rolf P.S. Thanks for your polite style here. > >Chr. > >http://www.beepworld.de/members39/computerschach2/
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