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Subject: Re: FRC Fritz 7.0.0.8 vs Fritz 8.0.0.8 (Fritz7.0.0.8 is much stronger ) !

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 11:47:33 06/25/03

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On June 25, 2003 at 13:39:47, Stephen Ham wrote:

>On June 25, 2003 at 11:52:15, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>In this 15 Positions: I agree with You.
>>
>>I have beat easy Fritz 8 but against F7 no (see in archive my games).
>>
>>But: this 15 positions are not real FULL-FRC in my eyes!
>>
>>Eduard
>
>Dear Guys,
>
>This is indeed surprising. However, here's my uneducated opinions.
>
>I've noticed that at very fast time controls, such as this (15') that "weaker"
>engines sometimes prevail. But the stronger engines clearly dominate at longer
>time controls. In fact, in my tests, the difference grows with increased time.
>Most of my test games are conducted with 75'-90' per engine/game. Then I've
>never seen a "weaker" engine win any tournament from stronger ones.
>
>Why is this? Somebody made the comment above that F7 outsearched F8. Again, my
>speculation is that F8 is "smarter" (I think I've read claims to this effect
>from CB). So under these rapid time controls, it won't seach as deeply (all
>things being equal) since its greater heuristics causes it to search in greater
>detail, which slows it down. Being slower, it can't search as deeply (all things
>being equal). Rapid games are usually won by tactics, so faster engines will
>prevail over "smarter" ones, all things being equal.

I agree with you, I should have said Fritz 7.0.0.8 in Blitz of less than 30
Minutes per side is a litle bit stronger than Fritz 8.0.0.8 due to the reasons
that you stated above.

Pichard


>Here's a caveat: I'm probably the least informed poster here regarding chess
>engines. Nonetheless, my experiences above seem to support my conclusions.
>However, I can only speculate regarding the "why" of this issue.
>
>All the best,
>
>Stephen



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