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Subject: Re: A New look at Kasparov -Deeper Blue Game1 :After 39...h4 its a Draw

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 21:48:25 06/26/03

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On June 26, 2003 at 17:54:35, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:

>[D]3rr3/6k1/2p3P1/1p2nP1p/pP2p1P1/P1B1Nb1B/2P2K2/5R2 b
>In the above diagram Deeper Blue made a huge mistake by playing 39...Kh6 and
>lost.Commercial programs do not play this move but choose 39...h4 which draws.
>Amazingly no annotation to this game mentions this as the loosing mistake ;but
>they concentrate on moves like 34...Qxf1+ as mistakes.I Let Chessmaster 9000
>at 1.8 GHZ play both sides at 999 seconds per move for both sides after 39...h4
>and the result is a draw.Amazingly 39....h4! is played by the programs at very
>low depths also.Deeper Blue must be inferior to current Commercials for turning
>a Draw into a loss by playing 39....Kh6? 200 million positions per second and
>still it does not see 39...h4.I think Deeper Blue was at least 200 Elo points
>weaker than the current Commercials.HERE IS CHESSMASTER 9000 autoplay at 999sec
>per move at 1.8 GHZ after 39.....h4!
>CHESSMASTER 9000:39...h4 40.Ng2 Kf8 41.Nxh4 Bd1 42.f6 Bxc2 43.g7+ Kf7 44.Nf5
>Kxf6 45.g5+ Kxg5 46.Bxe5 Rxe5 47.Rg1+ Kf6 48.g8=Q Rxg8 49.Rxg8 Rxf5+ 50.Bxf5
>Kxf5 AND in this Drawn position the Computer(CM 9000) moves pieces back and
>forth for another 30 moves which I do not list without any advantage for any
>side.SO I THINK AFTER 39.....h4! IT IS A DRAW.


This is the most ridiculous thing I think I've ever read on CCC.

DBII had h4, and and shook it in 29s to pick Kh6.  Why?  Because h4 is the worst
move possible.  It loses *VERY* quickly.

After h4, 40.Ng2 is a _HORRIBLE_ move.  g5 is winning, and winning big.  F6
chooses it in seconds with a modest score.  After 40...Kg8 41. Bg2 white is up
over +1.50.  After 41...Kf8 42. Bxf3 the score is +2.00.

And guess what?!  DBII saw ALL of this, while your CM @ 999 seconds did not.


In the position of 39... in this game, black is lost.  Period.  DBII played the
*best* move, Kh6 with a losing score.  In this position, h4 is losing.  And
losing faster than Kh6.



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