Author: enrico carrisco
Date: 03:31:25 06/28/03
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On June 28, 2003 at 06:11:08, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On June 28, 2003 at 05:51:08, Helmut Conrady wrote: > >>On June 28, 2003 at 05:40:08, George Tsavdaris wrote: >> >>>On June 28, 2003 at 04:41:02, Harald Faber wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Score TK Hi Ch Fr Sh Ru De Ju >>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> 1: TK 3.23 SKR 10.0 / 14 XX 10 =1 1= == == 11 11 >>>>>> 2: Hiarcs 8 8.0 / 14 01 XX == =1 11 0= == == >>>>>> 3: Chess Tiger 15 7.5 / 14 =0 == XX =0 11 =1 0= 1= >>>>>> 4: Fritz 8 7.5 / 14 0= =0 =1 XX 00 =1 =1 11 >>>>>> 5: Shredder 7.04 7.0 / 14 == 00 00 11 XX =1 1= 01 >>>>>> 6: Ruffian 1.0.5 6.5 / 14 == 1= =0 =0 =0 XX 1= 01 >>>>>> 7: Deep Sjeng 1.5 5.5 / 14 00 == 1= =0 0= 0= XX 1= >>>>>> 8: Junior 8 4.0 / 14 00 == 0= 00 10 10 0= XX >>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>56 games: +20 =24 -12 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>What is going on with Junior 8 ? >>>> >>>> >>>>Look at the testing conditions and find the answer yourself. >>> >>> I don't really think there is anything strange with time controls, >>>hash tables,hardware or anything else, so what do you think it's >>>wrong with test conditions? Perhaps Junior don't feel confortable >>>playing in Germany? >>> Anyway, maybe the "problem" for the bad performance of Junior 8 >>>is the remis book. It's known that in a tournament Junior will propably >>>have the least draws of all, so playing with a book which is made from >>>drawn positions from GM's, lead Junior to play from "almost drawn" >>>positions for a win. >> >>Shouldn t any book line end in a equal position? :) >> >>Remis.book.ctg contents some very very sharp positions (e.g. in the King´s >>Gambit), too. >> >>Helmut > > > Hi Helmut > As mentioned on an earlier occasion, we have cancelled > the King's Gambit from the book remis.ctg but it might > indeed be that this book does not at all suit to the > playing style of Junior8. We shall see after 70 rounds. > Kurt Even so, the point of the tests is to establish engine strength and keep all other variables constant, correct? I just can't validate the argument that engine X is unfairly suffering from a standard opening book under a test such as this (aimed at engine comparison only, not engine + its own opening book + gui (where applicable.) Especially with a book like remis.ctg. Any engine that suffers from this book (unduly) is not very well rounded. -elc.
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