Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 04:49:05 06/28/03
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On June 28, 2003 at 07:37:00, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>On June 28, 2003 at 07:00:43, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On June 28, 2003 at 06:54:59, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Helmut
>>>>> As mentioned on an earlier occasion, we have cancelled
>>>>> the King's Gambit from the book remis.ctg but it might
>>>>> indeed be that this book does not at all suit to the
>>>>> playing style of Junior8. We shall see after 70 rounds.
>>>>> Kurt
>>>>
>>>>Even so, the point of the tests is to establish engine strength and keep all
>>>>other variables constant, correct?
>>>>
>>>>I just can't validate the argument that engine X is unfairly suffering from a
>>>>standard opening book under a test such as this (aimed at engine comparison
>>>>only, not engine + its own opening book + gui (where applicable.)
>>>>
>>>>Especially with a book like remis.ctg. Any engine that suffers from this book
>>>>(unduly) is not very well rounded.
>>>>
>>>No, i think you are wrong.
>>>Junior opening book is prepared specifially for Junior8's play, and with
>>>this opening book Junior 8 must play (Like all other commercial engines
>>>and perhaps some amateur).
>>>And like Kasparov/Kramnik and everybody else that learn opening lines that suits
>>>to their style. They play in the tournaments with their opening
>>>choices and not with a general opening variety.
>>>If M.Tal played with the opening ideas of Capablanca then Tal whould not
>>>give us all the magic games he did.
>>>Because the Junior8.ctg has been tested to end at positions that favor Junior8
>>>and Junior8 understands. I strongly believe that if Kasparov played openings
>>>only from Remis-book for example then he would be 25-30 Elo points lower.
>>>(Of cource if the others did that, they would be 40-60 Elo lower).
>>
>> To eliminate all doubts we shall - if we find the time - repeat the
>> whole tournament with the engines using their own books.
>> Kurt
>
>And can you continue the rest of the match under the Shredder GUI instead of
>Hiarcs8 GUI.
>
>Pichard
Any reason for this wish? Just to have then PGN files that most
people using other programs or ChessBase 7.0/8.0 can't read with
all the information in the game.
Kurt
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