Author: Dimitris Poulos
Date: 05:11:04 06/28/03
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On June 28, 2003 at 07:00:43, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On June 28, 2003 at 06:54:59, George Tsavdaris wrote: > >>>> >>>> Hi Helmut >>>> As mentioned on an earlier occasion, we have cancelled >>>> the King's Gambit from the book remis.ctg but it might >>>> indeed be that this book does not at all suit to the >>>> playing style of Junior8. We shall see after 70 rounds. >>>> Kurt >>> >>>Even so, the point of the tests is to establish engine strength and keep all >>>other variables constant, correct? >>> >>>I just can't validate the argument that engine X is unfairly suffering from a >>>standard opening book under a test such as this (aimed at engine comparison >>>only, not engine + its own opening book + gui (where applicable.) >>> >>>Especially with a book like remis.ctg. Any engine that suffers from this book >>>(unduly) is not very well rounded. >>> >>No, i think you are wrong. >>Junior opening book is prepared specifially for Junior8's play, and with >>this opening book Junior 8 must play (Like all other commercial engines >>and perhaps some amateur). >>And like Kasparov/Kramnik and everybody else that learn opening lines that suits >>to their style. They play in the tournaments with their opening >>choices and not with a general opening variety. >>If M.Tal played with the opening ideas of Capablanca then Tal whould not >>give us all the magic games he did. >>Because the Junior8.ctg has been tested to end at positions that favor Junior8 >>and Junior8 understands. I strongly believe that if Kasparov played openings >>only from Remis-book for example then he would be 25-30 Elo points lower. >>(Of cource if the others did that, they would be 40-60 Elo lower). > > To eliminate all doubts we shall - if we find the time - repeat the > whole tournament with the engines using their own books. > Kurt This would favour the most recent books. Those that are tested against the others( Fritz 8, Shredder 7 and Junior 8). Dimitris
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