Author: James T. Walker
Date: 08:16:20 06/28/03
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On June 28, 2003 at 00:04:45, Anson T J wrote: >On June 27, 2003 at 21:13:21, James T. Walker wrote: > >>On June 27, 2003 at 12:31:01, Anson T J wrote: >> >>>On June 27, 2003 at 12:13:44, James T. Walker wrote: >>> >>>>On June 27, 2003 at 11:21:40, Anson T J wrote: >>>> >>>>>I'm thinking of running 50 games of Junior 8 vs Fritz 8 at tournament time >>>>>controls. Which version of fritz 8 is the best to test at tournament time >>>>>controls? >>>> >>>>Run 1000 games of the two Fritz version vs each other and then you may "think" >>>>you know which is best. >>> >>>I don't have time for 1000 games at tournament time control. That was a stupid >>>suggestion. I'm sure there are people who visit this site that have used Fritz 8 >>>and its many versions and can recommend which one is seen as the best for >>>tournament games. >>> >>>Also there are more than 2 fritz 8 versions... >> >>Let me tell you what STUPID is my friend. Stupid is expecting to get the >>correct answer to your stupid question here or anywhere else. Nobody else has >>had time to run 1000 games at standard time controls either. > >Who suggested the 1000 games? You did. If you understood the situation and the >the question, you would see that it is possible to answer the question. Asking >which version is the best to test isn't the same as asking which version is the >strongest. > >People may be curious to see one version play against Junior 8 and for them that >engine would be the best to test whether it is stronger or not. > >I actually received a few sensible emails requesting that I test version 8.0.0.8 >as its the most respected version as version 8.0.0.23 has some bugs (Ne4 bug?). > >My apologies if you confused my intended question of "Which Fritz engine would >people like to see play Junior 8 in 50 Tournament games?" with "Which Fritz 8 >engine is the strongest?" > >Sometimes people like to offer help to others or conduct a test for which the >results are meaningful to people other than themselves. Surely if I tested Fritz >3 vs Junior 8 people would prefer that I used a more recent version of Fritz. Hello again, It's nice to see that you can offer a sensible post if you try. You asked for the best version to test at tournament time controls. The Ne4 bug is not likely to show up in 50 games. The difference between the two strength wise is hard to gauge in my opinion based on my test. If you wanted a poll to see which is most popular, you did not make that clear. I have both of them in my database now as Fritz 8 but have been using 8.0.0.23 since it became available. In any case if you use one then some people will likely ask why you did not use the other. You will probably not get any consensus of opinion. So, good luck on whatever you do and please post the results here. Jim
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