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Subject: Re: 64 Bit Programs

Author: Keith Evans

Date: 21:30:41 06/28/03

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On June 28, 2003 at 23:39:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 28, 2003 at 14:36:32, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>On June 28, 2003 at 14:23:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On June 28, 2003 at 12:12:15, Jay Urbanski wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 28, 2003 at 10:33:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Those are not true 64 bit processors.  Supposedly 32 bit stuff runs just
>>>>>fine on them, but they have 64 bit extensions.
>>>>
>>>>How is Opteron not a true 64-bit processor?
>>>
>>>
>>>Because it executes 32 bit instructions _also_.
>>>
>>>IE it is X86 compatible.
>>
>>So does the Itanium.  That doesn't make it any less of a 64-bit processor.
>
>
>The Itanium is not X86 compatible.  In any shape or form.  There is an
>emulator, of course.  But then the Alpha has a vax emulator.

The interesting question is what are the implications of the Opteron not being a
"true" 64-bit processor? Did you mean to imply that it is inferior to "true"
64-bit processors, or just that it was that much more of a challenge to design?
In other words, is there any reason why anybody buying one should care?

(I'll consider buying an Opteron if the EDA companies ever support it with
64-bit apps.)



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