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Subject: Re: It has a new home!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:18:06 06/29/03

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On June 29, 2003 at 05:26:50, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On June 28, 2003 at 21:50:37, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>I think that the ChessBase top programs are excellent.  They are damn strong,
>>the best one can find, with only a few exceptions (Ruffian, King, Rebel and a
>>couple of other mavericks...).  The problem lies not in the programs or
>>programmers.
>
>???
>
>So Junior8 is in your opinion a damn strong program ??

You cannot deny the fact that there are more than an hundred of programs that
are worse than Junior and less than 20 programs that are better than it.

I think that it is possible to call every program that is in the top 20 a damn
strong program.

How many program may be better than Junior?

The names that I can think of at this moment(probably most of them are weaker
than Junior but I decided to be generous in giving names of candidates when I
also consider the near future) are only:

1)Shredder
2)Chessmaster
3)Rebel
4)Fritz
5)Sjeng
6)Tiger
7)Hiarcs
8)Virtual chess(I do not know the level of the next version)
9)Kaissa(I read in the winboard forum that latest private version beats
Ruffian1.0.1 and Crafty)
10)Ruffian
11)List
12)Sos
13)Gandalf6
14)Warp(did almost the same as Gandalf in Leo tournament and it is a new
program)

I decided that the minimal level to consider are programs that are today at
least near crafty's level.

I did not include Crafty or Yace or Comet because the programmers do not seem to
have big inspirations to improve their program and the programs did not get a
big improvement for a long time.

Uri



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