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Subject: Re: 64 Bit Programs

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:50:11 06/29/03

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On June 29, 2003 at 06:35:02, Tony Werten wrote:

>On June 28, 2003 at 14:23:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 28, 2003 at 12:12:15, Jay Urbanski wrote:
>>
>>>On June 28, 2003 at 10:33:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>Those are not true 64 bit processors.  Supposedly 32 bit stuff runs just
>>>>fine on them, but they have 64 bit extensions.
>>>
>>>How is Opteron not a true 64-bit processor?
>>
>>
>>Because it executes 32 bit instructions _also_.
>
>P4 and AMD also execute 16-bit instructions, so they are 16 bit processors ?

Not pure 16 bit no.  Not pure 32 either.

Check out "Cray" for a better example of a pure architecture.

All math is 64 bits.  All address arithmetic is 32 bits.  Different
instructions, functional units, and registers for each.  No kludges about
gating 32 bits with 32 high-end zeroes and that kind of stuff.

But in the case of opteron, at least at first look, it appears to be a 32
bit machine with 64 bit instructions layered on top.


>
>BTW mov al,value is an 8 bit instruction so ....

There are even single bit instructions.

But I wasn't talking about that side of things...


>
>Tony
>
>>
>>IE it is X86 compatible.



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