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Subject: Re: Which Program is Currently the Best at Tactics?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 16:53:46 06/30/03

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Sorry Uri,

i forgot to mention that Johan has given an interview which is published a few
days ago in the computerschaak magazine.

A few quotes.

interviewer Andre van Ark: Johan, Do you join this year the worldchampionship in
Graz?

Johan: "No, but i do show up there. It has become tradition that The King
doesn't join at the world championship. This tradition i like to keep.
(laughing) A worldchampionship is really demolishing, you're in harness a full
week and then that dragging around with the computer....
But again, i do intend to look there and watch the conference and play a few
games of Amazones"

Andre van Ark: When does the market see a Deep-version of The King?

Johan: "Look, not at the moment! It is for the average chessmaster user not at
all interesting, because the majority of chessplayers doesn't have at home a
Dual PC and the buy of such hardware asks each time a substantial investment
because certain components you have to buy twice and the total can add up quite
a bit.
For that amount of money i would prefer to buy every year the best single cpu PC
above a dual from which i only would use half."

On June 30, 2003 at 16:09:15, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 30, 2003 at 14:15:58, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On June 30, 2003 at 01:29:37, Johan de Koning wrote:
>>
>>>On June 29, 2003 at 18:32:09, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 29, 2003 at 09:57:23, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 29, 2003 at 09:35:50, Sherry Washington wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Would that be Shredder7.04, i am reffering to TOP programs
>>>>>
>>>>>I have not seen a better tactical program than CM9000 yet.
>>>>
>>>>that thing doesn't even run at 1 and a half processor and won't show up at world
>>>>champs 2003 even. Very weak of the ubisoft company.
>>>
>>>Why use 1.5 CPU if 1 suffices to beat Diep at an number of CPUs? :-)
>>>
>>>Nice provocation though, but way off-topic in this thread.
>>>
>>>... Johan
>>
>>It is very on topic. You guys never show up at world champs. Play only 2
>>tournaments 15 minutes from where you live!
>
>And it is not a reason to attack Johan.
>It is his right.
>
>It does not prove that chessmaster is weak.
>
>>
>>That's very poor.
>>
>>Note that saying that most users do not use parallel machines is a very weak
>>excuse to explain why The King is not parallel.
>
>Johan did not say it but I said it.
>
> All future processors will use
>>SMT/HT or whatever it will be called in the future (CMP hopefully). So each chip
>>in itself is already parallel.
>>
>>Every 90% of all users buying a new computer will have a parallel machine then.
>
>It is possible that at that time Johan will also have a parallel king.
>It does not contradict the excuse that I gave.
>
>It is not the only possible excuse and another excuse is that the king simply
>does not need more than 1 cpu beccaquse the king with 1 cpu is better than other
>programs with more cpu's.
>
>another reason is that customers with 2 cpu's may use them for engine-engine
>games when every engine get 1 cpu.
>
>so the question which program is better with one cpu may be still relevant for
>them.
>
>>
>>All new P4 chips have SMT to just mention a thing.
>>
>>DIEP is ready for it. So is deep sjeng. Shredder too.
>
>And chessmaster with 1 cpu is first in the last tournament and not one of them.
>
>>
>>Fritz you need to pay double and for a bugfixed version you again need to pay 68
>>euro.
>>
>>How about chessmaster?
>>
>>You're just telling another commercial BS story to the public right now.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Vincent
>
>I said that most customers are not interested in more than one cpu.
>I did not know that my name is Johan.
>
>Uri



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