Author: Aaron Gordon
Date: 00:30:51 07/01/03
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On July 01, 2003 at 03:15:58, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On July 01, 2003 at 00:37:26, Aaron Gordon wrote: > >>On June 30, 2003 at 16:07:52, Michael P. Nance Sr. wrote: >> >>>On June 30, 2003 at 14:52:07, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On June 30, 2003 at 14:42:36, Mr j smith wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 30, 2003 at 14:06:43, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On June 30, 2003 at 12:14:35, Sean Mintz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I originally used the Tyan Tiger MP. It doesnt have video, networking, sound, or >>>>>>>anything like that which is what I wanted. It was a fast board, completely >>>>>>>stable, and I used it for almost 2 years. It got destroyed during an electrical >>>>>>>storm, though. I replaced it with a Tyan Tiger MPX which was a later revision >>>>>> >>>>>>electrical storm? >>>>>> >>>>>>What do you mean? >>>>>> >>>>>>I have 150000 volts above my head. If that ain't generating a big enough EMF, >>>>>>then the only thing that i can imagine at the moment generating a bigger EMF >>>>>>field is a H-bomb in the atmosphere. >>>>>> >>>>>>Of course you need 3 wires to the machine. 2 power wires and 1 earth, otherwise >>>>>>nowadays todays computers destroy themselves ;) >>>>>> >>>>>>>that also included networking capabilities. Better performance, still completely >>>>>>>stable, but also can be overclocked. I have my dual 1.2 ghz athlon mp's (the >>>>>>>originals) at 9x150 (1350 mhz). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>These boards have been great to me and if they sound like what you're looking >>>>>>>for then I would definately suggest them. >>>>>> >>>>>>i personally find all the dual K7 motherboards suck ass. Most boards the com >>>>>>ports do not work. good example is the Tyan stuff. only bios 2.07 the both com >>>>>>ports worked. the newer ones it doesn't. >>>>>> >>>>>>for an auto232 player pretty critical. >>>>>> >>>>>>currently i have a MPX2 motherboard. it is the best board i had so far, but keep >>>>>>in mind that this board is discontinued. >>>>>> >>>>>>dual opteron is what rocks now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Do you know how far the dual opteron motherboards can be overclocked? By that I >>>>>mean the FSB. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks in advanced. >>>> >>>>I know that my MPX motherboard doesn't overclock at all, unless i buy all kind >>>>of stuff to cool all chipsets and that i kick out all USB devices and such. >>>> >>>>overclocking duals or quads is a very BAD idea. >>>> >>>>if i put FSB from 133Mhz to 134Mhz it already gets hung here after a while. >>>>i guess it is the usb optical mouse that causes. >>>> >>>>I have as heatsinks: swiftech 462 and on the other i have a thermalright SLK800 >>>>that latter heatsink sucks ass and the first one i love but at the second socket >>>>it didn't fit, the reason i use such heatsinks is because i want a silent pc. i >>>>don't want a delta airlines machine like my old dual K7 is. >>>> >>>>It produces more noise than a delta airlines jumbojet. Or in fact exactly that. >>>>it has delta fans. >>>> >>>>Right now i regrettably need 1 delta fan to blow air onto the slk800. I have >>>>some slower running fan here but then the processor gets too hot when diep is >>>>running. >>>> >>>>I bet opteron is a server processor where you should not toy with at all >>>>considering that it burns 80+ watt. >>>> >>>>People overclocking duals take a big risk. >>>> >>>>What i do remember is that in past i had overclocked PII300s to 450Mhz. After a >>>>few months they one by one collapsed. >>>> >>>>In general i do not remember anything that ran dual that overclocked well in a >>>>very stable way for many years. >>>> >>>>I remember diep ran at the icc shortly at a dual 550Mhz celeron. i know another >>>>10 guys who had dual celerons. they all broke within 2 years. >>>> >>>>overclocking is a bad habit, but i can't deny that i sometimes try it. >>> >>>Sir ,I am constanley looking for the fastest and best Computer to run My Chess >>>Programs on. I'm on My 6th singal Processor in as many Years. I have decided to >>>go dual and almost bought a dual AMD 2800 MP's. I heard about and read all the >>>articles about the Opteron and decided to go that way. I also considered buying >>>some overclocked chips but My gut feeling told Me to hold off. Other creditable >>>sources told Me the same thing You just did,about the reliablity issue and for >>>how long. I will probualy purchase a dual Opteron 2Ghz when Thier finally >>>released. Thanks for Your comments,You probualy save Me from making a big >>>mistake with overclocked chips. By the way ,do You know of other Computer >>>Venders that would have state-of-the art Products/cutting edge technology >>>besides Monarch.com? >>>>Mike >> >>My overclocked chips do NOT have problems. Not a single one of the *MANY* >>pretested overclocked chips I have sold has had any problems. All chips are >>tested extremely well before I ship them. >> >>The main reason they don't have problems is because of my testing AND the chips >>aren't overclocked much from a technical aspect (whats printed on the chip means >>NOTHING.. a 1700+ core have a better 'core' than a 2800+!). Just because a 1700+ >>is running 3200+ or more doesn't mean it's going to have more problems than a >>2200+ at 3200+ for example. Infact, there isn't a single 2200+ that can hit >>2.4GHz (3200+) because they use Tbred-A cores. I get hand-picked 1700+ chips >>that have 2.4GHz cores. I've explained all of this many times before and will >>not go into it again, but I will assure you that you won't have any problems. > >No you never explained it. All i know is that all my friends here in western >europe never manage to get their hands upon cpu's that overclock *that* much. > >You say 1700s running 2.4Ghz. > >Well my iwill mpx2 mainboard with some big heatsinks already has problems to >overclock bus from 133 to 134 Mhz (effectively 135Mhz). > >The mouse stops working. > >To start with. > >It's a logitech cordless optical mouse connected to usb, i couldn't get it to >work ps/2 even. > >further i have a keyboard attached ps/2 > >a Ti4200 asus card (never use the asus drivers though but the nvidia ones) > >and a cheapo network card which was like $10 already 5 years ago and which i had >removed when i tried to overclock. > >the both chips run 2.127Ghz and they are official MP2600s. > >Now why won't it run 2.2Ghz ? > >All my friends have similar experiences. They overclock and if they manage after >a short while they have to clock back. > >Now you claim you have many chips that do work? > >Sure there is chips that can be clocked higher. But from each 200 pressed cpu's >only a few are in the center pressed. Then some fail anyways. > >Now don't tell me that all of those chips that are pressed and tested to be >good, that they also clock to 2.4Ghz. That's BS. Yes, *ALL* of the chips run 2.4GHz. These are hand picked chips, and tested by me to run 2.4GHz stable. That is *NOT* bs. All of AMDs chips that are coming off of the line right now are at least 2.4GHz. I find the NEWEST chips and test them. Your friends may have trouble overclocking because they are doing it via FSB, which introduces problems with over speced PCI/AGP speeds. My chips don't do this. About overclocking. These chips have modified multipliers and modified voltages. You don't need to overclock anything on your board. *NOTHING*. You just put the chip in and turn your system on, that is *ALL*. Also, some of the chips I have modified run lower voltages than the regular Athlon XP/MP chips so they actually run cooler than the non-overclocked Athlon. Since the cores are all technically 2.4GHz, running one of these cores (from the hand-picked XP 1700+ chips) at 2.0-2.4GHz isn't overclocking at all. This is similar to taking a P4-3.06 remarked to 2.4GHz, then modifying it back into a 3.06.. is that overclocking? No.
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