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Subject: Re: Deep Sjeng comments

Author: Gian-Carlo Pascutto

Date: 03:27:46 07/01/03

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On June 30, 2003 at 22:47:56, Chris Kantack wrote:

>Now, Deep Sjeng has a very fast and powerful engine.  I'll give it that.   But
>in all other areas, I think it sucks big time.  Currently I'm running version
>1.5 but I'll be damned if I can find any documentation on what the engine
>parameters mean.

There were multiple ways to find that out:

- First and foremost, our support. I monitor the support forum
  multiple times per day and try to answer all questions I can,
  and so does Lex.
  A simple question like this would have been answered in a matter
  of hours. You can find the support forum:
  http://www.lokasoft.nl/cgi-bin/UltraBoard1.61/UltraBoard.pl
  OR Via the Lokasoft homepage via either the link 'forum' or 'support'
  OR In Deep Sjeng -> Help -> Help on the Web

- In the personality editor, by hovering your mouse over the option
  you want an explanation about (the same way it works in any Windows
  program).

- There is a file 'personal.txt' included with the engine that provides
  a more detailed description. (In the directory Engines\DeepSjeng 1.?\)

We don't include a large printed manual, but most of the workings of
the program are rather obvious, and we do our best to help out anyone
with anything that isn't.

>Also, the help files used to work.  Now they don't even
>though the help files that are supposedly missing are in their proper and
>original locations.

This is new to me - I have no idea why it wouldn't work. You say
they used to, what happened inbetween?

>ChessMaster 6000 has gobs of tutorials, puzzles, annotated games, verbal
>analyses, etc.   You won't find any of that with Deep Sjeng.

This is true. Neither will you find a recent engine in ChessMaster 6000,
nor multiprocessor capability, or UCI support, or (full and easy!) WinBoard
support, easy access to ICC and FICS, a recent and handmade openings book,
Nalimov tablebase support, or a good multivariation analysis mode.

Granted, none of these features may interest you, but then again, there
are as much people that couldn't care less for the tutorials and
puzzles but need any or more of the above ones.

What does this tell you? The programs are aimed at a different audiences,
and saying that one sucks because it doesn't have the features of the
other doesn't make much sense.

>In terms of a user-friendly interface, features, and everything else, I'd pick
>my old ChessMaster 6000 any day of the week over Deep Sjeng.
>
>(Anybody out their disagree with me?   Let me know why!)

Well, I think CM 6000's interface is horrible, and it doesn't have any of
the features I'd want. So I'd pick Deep Sjeng any day of the week.

But that's just personal preference, of course.

--
GCP



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