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Subject: Re: chess and neural networks

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 11:21:12 07/01/03

On July 01, 2003 at 13:32:19, Ralph Stoesser wrote:

>Hello *,
>
>Why no top engine uses neural networks for positional evaluation in non-tactical
>situations? Are there interesting publications about neural networks and chess
>programming?
>
>Ralph

Neural networks are for analyzing things that are
"fuzzy"--voice/image/handwriting recognition, etc. Chess is a very exacting
game. (It makes a big difference if your rook is on d1 vs. e1.) I doubt neural
networks will ever be useful for chess.

-Tom

Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 17:50:54 07/02/03
Re: chess and neural networks Anthony Cozzie 12:50:19 07/01/03
- Re: chess and neural networks Landon Rabern 23:03:20 07/01/03
  - Re: chess and neural networks Dann Corbit 23:18:48 07/01/03
    - Re: chess and neural networks Landon Rabern 10:13:43 07/02/03
      - Re: chess and neural networks Christophe Theron 00:22:15 07/03/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Landon Rabern 12:44:44 07/03/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Christophe Theron 08:32:03 07/04/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 20:56:34 07/04/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Christophe Theron 21:25:24 07/04/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 10:55:12 07/05/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Christophe Theron 19:58:51 07/05/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 12:51:49 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Uri Blass 13:35:23 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 15:30:25 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Ingo Lindam 13:54:51 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Uri Blass 21:25:49 07/05/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Uri Blass 22:15:41 07/05/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Christophe Theron 00:04:07 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Uri Blass 05:00:48 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 12:42:25 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Uri Blass 13:21:05 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 14:38:01 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Sune Fischer 14:52:59 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 18:22:40 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Sune Fischer 02:42:32 07/07/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 03:03:08 07/07/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Sune Fischer 04:20:18 07/07/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 06:16:14 07/07/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Jens Kahlenberg 07:03:08 07/07/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Ralph Stoesser 14:51:53 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 18:26:31 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Ralph Stoesser 22:49:50 07/06/03
        
        note Vincent Diepeveen 02:50:43 07/07/03
        
        Re: note Ralph Stoesser 04:14:39 07/07/03
        
        Re: note Vincent Diepeveen 06:24:58 07/07/03
        
        Re: note Ralph Stoesser 10:56:15 07/07/03
        
        Re: note Uri Blass 21:05:56 07/08/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 02:44:52 07/07/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Ingo Lindam 05:38:35 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 14:18:17 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Ingo Lindam 15:33:33 07/06/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Vincent Diepeveen 03:40:33 07/07/03
Re: chess and neural networks Roger D Davis 11:51:24 07/01/03
- Re: chess and neural networks Ralph Stoesser 12:46:06 07/01/03
  - Re: chess and neural networks Fernando Alonso 15:20:12 07/01/03
    - Re: chess and neural networks Rolf Tueschen 01:17:28 07/02/03
      - Re: chess and neural networks Ralph Stoesser 03:08:14 07/04/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Rolf Tueschen 04:06:21 07/04/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Ralph Stoesser 06:08:03 07/04/03
      - Re: chess and neural networks Christophe Theron 22:54:32 07/02/03
        
        Re: ad hominem Rolf Tueschen 02:10:13 07/03/03
        
        Re: ad hominem Christophe Theron 10:04:25 07/03/03
        
        Re: Interdisciplinary Debates (Private Lesson for Christophe) Rolf Tueschen 01:13:13 07/04/03
        
        No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Christophe Theron 10:35:40 07/04/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Rolf Tueschen 12:01:17 07/04/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Christophe Theron 21:47:25 07/04/03
        
        Re: Interdisciplinary Private Lesson No. 2 * For Christophe Rolf Tueschen 02:29:32 07/05/03
        
        Re: Interdisciplinary Private Lesson No. 2 * For Christophe Christophe Theron 10:33:54 07/05/03
        
        Re: Interdisciplinary Private Lesson No. 3 * For Christophe Rolf Tueschen 11:13:10 07/05/03
        
        Moderation: thats enough pissing here Thorsten Czub 03:20:52 07/06/03
        
        Re: Interdisciplinary Debate about a black cat Jens Kahlenberg 06:55:29 07/05/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Alessandro Damiani 01:32:25 07/05/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Thorsten Czub 04:08:24 07/06/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Christophe Theron 11:24:23 07/06/03
        
        Re: Private Interdisciplinary Lesson No.4 for Christophe (Father) Rolf Tueschen 14:59:31 07/06/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Andrei Fortuna 11:57:41 07/06/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Christophe Theron 23:56:16 07/06/03
        
        Re: What to do if people start AD HOMINEM and then feel attacked??? Rolf Tueschen 05:26:44 07/07/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Thorsten Czub 14:10:55 07/06/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Andrei Fortuna 22:27:34 07/06/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Vincent Diepeveen 03:42:27 07/07/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Christophe Theron 23:43:59 07/06/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Andrei Fortuna 00:25:58 07/07/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Rolf Tueschen 05:07:55 07/07/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Keith Evans 14:36:20 07/06/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Thorsten Czub 14:47:13 07/06/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Sune Fischer 12:49:50 07/06/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Christophe Theron 23:37:49 07/06/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Sune Fischer 01:47:34 07/07/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN alan palmer 16:23:20 07/07/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Thorsten Czub 03:38:41 07/08/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Rolf Tueschen 04:39:07 07/08/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Thorsten Czub 08:00:45 07/08/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Christophe Theron 10:02:56 07/08/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Thorsten Czub 10:18:52 07/08/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Angrim 14:18:51 07/09/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Rolf Tueschen 04:52:24 07/09/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Rolf Tueschen 10:18:05 07/08/03
        
        Agreement Rolf Tueschen 01:19:06 07/08/03
        
        Re: No interdisciplinary at all, it's just about NN Christophe Theron 10:16:28 07/05/03
      - Re: chess and neural networks Fernando Alonso 08:35:14 07/02/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Rolf Tueschen 09:17:27 07/02/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Fernando Alonso 09:58:55 07/02/03
      - Re: chess and neural networks Ingo Lindam 04:29:16 07/02/03
Re: chess and neural networks Ricardo Gibert 11:29:25 07/01/03
- Re: chess and neural networks Tom Kerrigan 12:31:55 07/01/03
  - Re: chess and neural networks Christophe Theron 15:34:05 07/01/03
    - Re: chess and neural networks Uri Blass 01:23:05 07/03/03
    - Re: chess and neural networks Omid David Tabibi 17:57:40 07/01/03
  - Re: chess and neural networks Ricardo Gibert 13:04:45 07/01/03
    - Re: chess and neural networks Tom Kerrigan 13:25:12 07/01/03
      - Re: chess and neural networks Ricardo Gibert 13:41:05 07/01/03
  - Re: chess and neural networks Albert Bertilsson 12:52:48 07/01/03
Re: chess and neural networks Ralph Stoesser 11:27:57 07/01/03
- Re: chess and neural networks Magoo 12:14:04 07/01/03
  - Re: chess and neural networks Albert Bertilsson 12:42:42 07/01/03
    - Re: chess and neural networks Anthony Cozzie 12:55:07 07/01/03
      - Re: chess and neural networks Albert Bertilsson 13:02:14 07/01/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Magoo 13:17:37 07/01/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Russell Reagan 16:43:43 07/01/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Marc van Hal 14:08:29 07/01/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Ralph Stoesser 14:27:06 07/01/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Marc van Hal 07:46:03 07/02/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Ralph Stoesser 08:57:36 07/02/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Marc van Hal 10:28:47 07/02/03
        
        Re: chess and neural networks Ralph Stoesser 11:17:46 07/02/03

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