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Subject: Re: chess and neural networks

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 13:04:45 07/01/03

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On July 01, 2003 at 15:31:55, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On July 01, 2003 at 14:29:25, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On July 01, 2003 at 14:21:12, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>>On July 01, 2003 at 13:32:19, Ralph Stoesser wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello *,
>>>>
>>>>Why no top engine uses neural networks for positional evaluation in non-tactical
>>>>situations? Are there interesting publications about neural networks and chess
>>>>programming?
>>>>
>>>>Ralph
>>>
>>>Neural networks are for analyzing things that are
>>>"fuzzy"--voice/image/handwriting recognition, etc. Chess is a very exacting
>>>game. (It makes a big difference if your rook is on d1 vs. e1.) I doubt neural
>>>networks will ever be useful for chess.
>>>
>>>-Tom
>>
>>
>>Hmmm..but Kasparov uses the neural network within his brain to play chess
>>doesn't he? Are you contending he does not use his brain to play chess? Divine
>>inspiration?
>>
>>Perhaps you meant to say something like, "I doubt [the current interpretations
>>of] neural networks will ever be useful for chess."
>
>Kasparov has billions of neurons with 10-50 times as many interconnections. A PC
>has 50 million transistors and plays chess approximately as well. It's obvious
>to me that the human brain is not as well suited to playing chess as a computer
>(esp. considering that most human brains are much worse at chess than a 386).
>
>-Tom

It doesn't seem as well suited, because it is not specialized for playing only
chess. How would feel about Deep Blue driving you to work through rush hour
traffic?



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